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Re: Free tuition doesn't mean free college, students point out 

By: Beldin in POPE IV | Recommend this post (2)
Wed, 08 Feb 17 2:53 AM | 63 view(s)
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Are ya tryin' to pick a fight, today, Professor?

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My older son has a bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Texas at Austin and a master's degree in Systems Engineering from Southern Methodist University. Harvard wanted him. Washington University in St. Louis and Colorado School of Mines offered substantial scholarships. However, Harvard doesn't have an engineering program worth crap, and the engineering program at the University of Texas was ranked much higher than the other two (UT's program was ranked #5 in the nation when he entered).

Professor Monkey-Flinging-His-Own-Poo is correct in his assessment of the City of Austin - it is the Berkeley of Texas - HOWEVER, what might be true of the hippie-counter-culture that runs Austin is not a valid assessment of a large segment of the student body. My son was in a fraternity ... which tend to be comprised of hellions who are far, far more Conservative in their political outlook ... and his fraternity brothers and a large bloc of the students (especially students in the engineering, hard sciences, and business programs) are hardcore Conservatives who delight in rebelling against the hippie establishment of Austin, in general.

Now, as for Aggie-land ... yes, they have great, highly ranked programs ... especially in engineering, the hard sciences, and business, just like UT ... but, your kid does get one added bonus at A&M that he won't get at UT ... after he graduates, he will go through the rest of his life being, at least, a little "short-bus special," if ya know what I mean. Aggies are our brother Texans ... and we love 'em ... but, we always have to watch out for 'em ... 'cuz you never know when they're gonna step in front of a speeding bus, stick their finger into an electrical outlet, or some other such nonsense. And for goodness' sake ... if you ever hear one say, "WATCH THIS!" ... grab 'em quick ... something dangerously goofy is about to happen if you don't.




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Re: Free tuition doesn't mean free college, students point out
By: monkeytrots in POPE IV
Wed, 08 Feb 17 2:07 AM 		Msg. 20188 of 47202

De - You might consider Texas A&M. Freshmen are NOT required to live on campus. Although cost does not seem to be that high a consideration for you and your son, A&M is extremely reasonable.

Resident ... Resident at home with parents ... Non-Resident
Tuition & Fees* $10,030 $10,030 $30,208
Loan Fees 64 64 64
Room & Board 10,368 4,626 10,368
Books & Supplies 1,054 1,054 1,054
Travel 2,282 2,282 2,820
Personal Expenses 3,474 3,474 3,474
Total $27,272 $21,530 $47,988

In Engineering - Nat Rank 7-8
Sciences and Math - Both very highly ranked.

Highly ranked in Veterinarian Program, Med and Pre-Med
Not sure on Law School ranking -
High Percentage of National Merit Scholars
BROAD CROSS SECTION of the country

It would be a 'culture shock' for your son - very friendly campus, and very beautiful. Also, still a bastion of conversative values.

The ONLY thing I would not recommend at A&M would be a 'liberal arts' degree - but I wouldn't recommend that at ANY school.

At the risk of offending Mr. Wizard - steer clear of University of Texas - not a good environment today for kids/young adults. Way too liberal - it has turned into the Berkley of Texas - imo.

A&M and University of Texas are both 'land grant' schools in Texas. Both universities are vested in vast land holdings that have mineral rights, and derive hundreds of millions of dollars from oil & gas production. This is fairly unique in this country.

You might want to take a look - it could surprise both you and your son. Could be quite a change at an important point in his life.

Their musical program for non-majors is quite excellent also - Symphony, Marching Band and vocal.


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