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Today the US Supreme Court handed down their decision in Murr v. Wisconsin. In a 5-3 vote (Justice Kennedy writing for the majority, Justice Gorsuch not participating), the Court determined that there was no regulatory taking in this case.


hmmm .... The lower court had found that combining the lots lessened their value by less than 10%, which was not enough to declare a takings under Lucas and other regulatory takings cases.

Facts in dispute ... I call BS on the 10% ruling.

https://disasterspropertypolitics.com/2017/06/23/scotus-decision-murr-v-wisconsin/




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In Murr V. Wisconsin, SCOTUS deals another blow to the Fifth Amendment
By: Beldin
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Mon, 26 Jun 17 6:51 AM
Msg. 21622 of 21975

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/06/24/murr-v-wisconsin-scotus-deals-another-blow-fifth-amendment/

A number of sane people around the commentariat have been up in arms over the recent decision handed down by the Supreme Court in Murr v. Wisconsin. And with very, very good reason. We've dealt with this case here before as it's played out through the lower courts, but as a refresher it deals with the situation encountered by Donna Murr and her siblings in Wisconsin. The family owned two small parcels of land along the St. Croix River. They had a cabin on one of the lots and the adjoining property was left vacant as an investment. But when they attempted to finally sell the vacant lot in 2004 they learned that the state had changed the rules on them, making it impossible to sell the land to anyone other than the county unless they combined the properties and relinquished the entire package.

The property in question had been valued at $400K. The county - the only entity legally entitled to buy it - offered them $40K.

Because the state, through changes in laws which did not apply when the family acquired the land, had completely gutted its worth, the Murr family sued to be properly compensated under the Takings Clause. With this week's decision, those hopes are dashed. Eric Boehm at Reason explains what this is doing to the rights of property owners.

When governments issue regulations that undermine the value of property, bureaucrats don't necessarily have to compensate property holders, the Supreme Court ruled Friday ...

The ruling could have implications that go well beyond the 2.5 acres of land in Wisconsin.

Several western states filed amicus briefs in the case on behalf of the Murr family (as did the Reason Foundation, which publishes this blog). Though states like Nevada and Arizona did not have a direct interest in the Murrs' ability to sell their vacant land, they saw the case as having important implications for conflicts over federal lands.

Many state governments own contiguous lots and large bodies of water near areas owned by the federal government (military bases, national parks, etc). If those government bodies are allowed to merge contiguous lots for regulatory purposes, the federal government could impose severe restrictions on state land and wouldn't have to pay consequences, warned Ilya Somin, a professor of law at George Mason University who authored the amicus brief on behalf of those western states.

What we are seeing here is a continuation of what I still maintain is possible the worst ruling from the Supreme Court in the history of the nation, Kelo v. City of New London. That was the dark day when the Supremes ruled that the idea of "public use" in the Takings Clause could be reinterpreted into a Reverse Robin Hood scenario by defining it as the far more ambiguous "public benefit." When that case was decided in 2005 the principal dissent was written by O'Connor, but in a separate dissent, Associate Justice Clarence Thomas wrote the following:

Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's interpretation of the Constitution. Though citizens are safe from the government in their homes, the homes themselves are not.

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