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But rather than paying careful attention to his actual words, our country continues to argue about the motive and integrity of its president.

This is wrong. The "country" doesn't argue about motive and integrity of the boy president. The mainstream, liberal socialist media are pushing that agenda and discussion for diversion away from what more and more people are realizing: This guy is a congenital and pathological liar and will say or do anything to advance his cause: the destruction of America as we knew it.

This is smoke and mirrors. the majority of Americans KNOW he is a liar and so is Steny Hoyer with the crap about keeping your policy.

WHAT was in the bill that OBAMA wanted was to make every single health policy to be non-compliant and thus, terminated and a whole new set of them to be put in place so he could collectivize the co-opt the entire health insurance industry, thus providing millions of policies with NO PRE-EXISTING conditions for free to all his no income voter base and keep them life long socialists who want everything in life for free, at least to them.

One other point. Notice that the phrase "affordable healthcare act" is now being used by almost everyone instead of the previous OBAMACARE. That is because the white house is trying to take the heat off the authors of OBAMACARE, OBAMA, and HIS MINIONS the democrats, who are wearing that like an IRON MASK and they are going to be tossed into a body of water.

Hopefully in the 2014 elections, the American people will rise up and vote out the SLIMEBALLS on BOTH SIDES of the aisle, particularly in the SENATE.

I have more respect for Joe Manchin of West Virginia than I do for the likes of McCain and the clown from North Carolina, both RINOS and progressives who need to be fired and sent packing and replaced with a TEA PARTY conservative patriot who believes in the BILL OF RIGHTS and the CONSTITUTION.

TAKE BACK AMERICA should be the theme and motto of every patriot living.

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Read my lips: The President knowingly lied
By: TomTamilio
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Mon, 18 Nov 13 4:01 AM
Msg. 20559 of 21975

The question is, do liberal douchebags care whether their own leaders are liars? The answer is that libtards are the victims of bad parenting. They were never taught about things like scruples, ethics, and not to lie. So the answer is NO. They don't care. They think it's funny.


Read my lips: The President knowingly lied about Obamacare - no matter what


Washington Times - ‎5 hours ago‎

Sunday, November 17, 2013 - Forbidden Table Talk by Bob Siegel


SAN DIEGO, November 17, 2013 — To any thinking observer, President Obama’s own explanation offers an involuntary confession that he knowingly lied about his Affordable Health Care law. But rather than paying careful attention to his actual words, our country continues to argue about the motive and integrity of its president.

At stake is a lot of damage that people were promised would never happen. NBC News reports that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million Americans who purchased their insurance policies individually are likely to receive cancellations because their policies do not conform to new regulations from the Affordable Health Care Act.

According to a recent Fox News poll, 50 percent of voters believe President Obama deliberately lied when he promised that people could keep the health care plans and doctors they preferred.

Still, Obama supporters such as House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) insist that no lie was told. Hoyer claims Obama’s words were accurate at the time the statement was made.

“You understand,” Hoyer said, “that if you had a policy on the day that this bill was adopted, you got to keep it … Now, you didn’t get to keep it if the insurance companies didn’t want to offer it to you.”

And so the debate rages on. Did Obama knowingly lie or was he himself uninformed about the subtle nuances of his own health care law?

We no longer need to speculate. The plain facts should now be obvious even though people often miss the obvious.

If you let a lying man talk long enough, the truth usually comes out. President Obama’s own attempts at clarification reveal that he did indeed lie to the public.

In a recent speech at the St. Regis Hotel Washington D.C. Obama tried to clean up his mess by explaining what he meant to say when putting forth blanket promises.

“Now, if you have or had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really like that plan, what we said was you could keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law was passed. So we wrote into the Affordable Care Act you’re grandfathered in on that plan.

“But if the insurance company changes it, then what we’re saying is they’ve got to change it to a higher standard. They’ve got to make it better. They’ve got to improve the quality of the plan that they’re selling. That’s part of the promise that we made, too. That’s why we went out of our way to make sure that the law allowed for grandfathering, but if we had allowed these old plans to be downgraded or sold to new enrollees once the law had already passed, then we would have broken an even more important promise — making sure that Americans gain access to health care that doesn’t leave them one illness away from financial ruin.”

This explanation is a far cry from Obama’s original promise. It was repeated many times including his speech on June 15, 2010.

“If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

“No matter what?” Strange words inasmuch as his recent explanation says that there actually are a few “whats” and “matters” along the road. It matters when you got your insurance plan. It also matters if your insurance company made changes that conformed to Obama’s standards.

Most people don’t seem to be catching this but the moment President Obama explains the fine print of his promises, he is admitting that he had an accurate understanding of the law all along but simply chose not to speak the full truth.

The only other explanation would be that he himself was such an incompetent leader that he didn’t bother to read his own health care document. But if that is the case, then he is now attempting to cover up inexcusable ignorance by pretending he did know.

We are left with two choices: He lied then or he is lying now. Either way the man is a liar. His present explanation forces us to conclude that the original lie was in the original promise even though we learn this through a roundabout explanation rather than a stated confession.

Certainly this isn’t the first time our president has been caught telling a lie. We now know he had accurate information at his disposal when he claimed that the attack in Benghazi was a spontaneous reaction to a video rather than a coordinated act of terrorism.

There are others as well but perhaps it’s best not to focus on them.

Ironically Obama has benefited from too many lies and scandals taking place at one time. It makes the public grow numb to the plethora of accusations and increases (in the minds of some) the odds that Republicans might be making it all up.

So, one lie at a time. At the moment, the “lie du jour” is this: According to his own explanation, when President Obama said you could keep your health care plan and doctor, he was not speaking the truth. Which means he was lying.

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/forbidden-table-talk/2013/nov/17/read-my-lips-president-knowingly-lied-about-obamac/


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