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Re: New Threats to Riot if Obama Loses Election // Kathy

By: monkeytrots in CONSTITUTION | Recommend this post (0)
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Msg. 19888 of 21975
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Kathy - Didn't see your posts - sorry fur not replyin' sooner.

The advice in that article was pretty decent - when one is caught out in the open, by a riot that flares up - it's likely one does NOT have armaments with one, much less enuf ammo to take on a rioting mob.

I lived in Japan in the late 60's, early 70's - when ANTI-AMERICAN riots were breaking out pretty routinely. Never did feel 'threatened' or 'in danger', though. The advice in that article was pretty much what we were advised to do if we got caught in one. (The ZENGAKURAN were a pretty militant and nasty bunch of communist radicals at the center of most of the violence.) They managed to shut down the rail at times - and even tipped over a couple of trains. VERY aggressive bunch - and the Japanese police were not (and ARE not) nearly as restrained in handling the miscreants as the ptb in the States. (Water Cannons, shields, batons that get USED, heavily, riot gear protective suits.)

My favourite story of how an American caught downtown in the middle of one of these outbreaks avoided getting the bloody snot kicked out him was this:

He spoke fluent Russian - Put his arm around the rioters and said "Hello, Comrade". Best buds after that, and the guy was safe.

It wasn't possible to be exactly 'inconspicuous' over there - Americans kinda stood out - especially back then - white skin, usually much taller than the Japanese, and so on. *s*


Anyways, the article DOES have very good advice. *w*




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Re: New Threats to Riot if Obama Loses Election // DUE
By: kathy_s16
in CONSTITUTION
Wed, 17 Oct 12 1:52 PM
Msg. 19862 of 21975

'scuse me, butttttt........are ya kidding?

Stay calm and keep your emotions in check. Riots coincide with intense emotions that boil to the surface, but if you want to survive one you would be better off keeping your own emotions in check. In the heat of the moment, your adrenaline and survival instincts will kick in, but try to think rationally and pursue safety in a methodical manner.

Avoid confrontation. Keep your head down, while at the same time looking for safe exit.

Walk. Don’t run. Don’t stop. If you run or go too quickly, you might attract unwanted attention.

Get inside and stay there. Typically riots happen in the streets, or somewhere outside. Being inside, especially in a large and sturdy structure, can be good protection to wait it out.

Keep your doors and windows locked. Don’t watch the riot from windows or porches. Move to inside rooms, where the danger of being hit by stones, bullets, or other is minimized. Try to find at least two possible exits in case you need to evacuate the building in a hurry.

Stay on the sidelines. If you’re caught up in a riot, don’t take sides. Try to look as inconspicuous as possible, and slowly and carefully move to the outside of the mob. Stay close to walls or other protective barriers if possible but try to avoid bottlenecks. These are areas where the crowd can be squashed into a tight place, such as tunnels, pillars, high fences and walls that go on for a long way.

If you’re caught up in a car, stay calm. Remain inside the car unless your car becomes a focus for the riot, in which case it risks being torched, smashed or rolled over. Calmly and swiftly leave it behind and get to safety if that happens. If people seem to block your escape route; honk your horn, and carefully drive through or around them at a moderate speed, and they should get out of the way. Driving towards police lines can be interpreted by the police as a preparation to use the car as a weapon against them. DON’T DO IT.

Move away from the riot. The more time you spend in the midst of a riot, the greater your chance of being injured or killed. That said, in most circumstances it’s better to move out of a riot slowly. It can also be dangerous to move against a crowd, so go with the flow until you are able to escape into a doorway or up a side street or alley. Think of crowd movement like currents in the ocean. In a large riot, the crowd in the middle will be moving faster than the people on the perimeters. As such, if you find yourself in the middle, you should not try to move in a different direction, but follow the flow and slowly make your way to the outside. This requires patience in order to work properly.

Watch your footing in a mob situation. If you stumble and fall to the ground you’re likely to be trampled. This is especially dangerous in stadiums and other enclosed areas, where many unfortunate victims have been crushed to death. If you fall down, pull yourself up into a ball. Protect your face, ears and internal organs. In this position you are a smaller object that can be avoided. You will receive less damage if you are stepped on. If others trip on you they will help create a larger “pile” that rioters will avoid.

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