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District Court Refuses to Stop Transfer of Marine Brandon Raub to Salem Psych Ward, 3 Hrs. Away, for Posting Political Views, Song Lyrics to Facebook

August 21, 2012

CHESTERFIELD, VA— Special Justice Walter Douglass Stokes for the General District Court for the City of Hopewell, Va., has denied an emergency motion filed by attorneys for The Rutherford Institute to stop former Marine Brandon Raub from being forcibly transferred to a psychiatric facility more than three hours away from his family, friends and legal team. Raub, who was arrested, detained indefinitely in a psych ward and forced to undergo psychological evaluations based solely on the controversial nature of lines from song lyrics, political messages and virtual card games which he posted to his private Facebook page, is being transferred from John Randolph Psychiatric Medical Hospital in Hopewell to the Veterans Hospital in Salem, Va., on the other side of the state. Raub was arrested on August 16, 2012, and has since been detained against his will due to alleged concerns by government officials that his Facebook posts are controversial and “terrorist in nature.” Rutherford Institute attorneys are challenging Raub’s arrest and detention on the grounds that the detainment order was procedurally improper, the result of an unlawful detention, and was based entirely on statements made by Raub that constitute protected free speech under the First Amendment.

“This is not how justice in America is supposed to work—with Americans being arrested for doing nothing more than exercising their First Amendment rights, forced to undergo psychological evaluations, detained against their will and isolated from their family, friends and attorneys. This is a scary new chapter in our history,” said John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute. “Brandon Raub is no different from the majority of Americans who use their private Facebook pages to post a variety of content, ranging from song lyrics and political hyperbole to trash talking their neighbors, friends and government leaders.”

Brandon Raub, a former Marine who has served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, was detained by FBI agents and police officers at his home in Chesterfield County based upon the nature of content posted to his Facebook page in recent months. Like many Facebook users, Raub uses his FB page to post songs lyrics and air his political opinions, as well as engage in virtual online games with other users. On Thursday, August 16, police and FBI agents arrived at Raub’s home, asking to speak with him about his Facebook posts. They did not provide Raub with a search warrant. Raub was cooperative and agreed to speak with them. Without providing any explanation, levying any charges against Raub or reading him his rights, law enforcement officials then handcuffed Raub and transported him first to the police headquarters, then to John Randolph Medical Center, where he has been held against his will. Outraged onlookers filmed the arrest and posted the footage to YouTube.

In a hearing before Special Justice Walter Douglass Stokes on August 20, government officials again pointed to Raub’s Facebook posts as the sole reason for their concern and for his continued incarceration. Ignoring Raub’s explanations about the fact that the FB posts were being read out of context and his attorney’s First Amendment defense, Stokes sentenced the former Marine to up to 30 days’ further confinement in a psych ward and signed a court order for Raub’s involuntary admission to the Veterans Hospital in Salem. Rutherford Institute attorneys are in the process of filing various emergency motions and procedural appeals to challenge Raub’s detention.

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/district_court_refuses_to_stop_transfer_of_marine_brandon_raub_to_salem_psy

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By: DueDillinger
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Wed, 22 Aug 12 5:21 AM
Msg. 19387 of 21975

Rutherford Institute Defends Marine Arrested, Incarcerated in Psych Ward & Detained Indefinitely for Posting Political Views, Song Lyrics to Facebook 

(https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/rutherford_institute_defends_marine_arrested_incarcerated_in_psych_ward_det }
August 20, 2012

CHESTERFIELD, VA—The Rutherford Institute has come to the defense of a former Marine, 26-year-old Brandon Raub, who was arrested, detained indefinitely in a psych ward, and forced to undergo psychological evaluations based solely on the controversial nature of lines from song lyrics, political messages, and virtual card games which he posted to his private Facebook page. Although the FBI and Chesterfield County police have not charged Brandon Raub with committing any crime, they arrested him on Thursday, August 16, 2012, and transported him to John Randolph Medical Center, where he is being held against his will due to concerns that his Facebook posts were controversial and “terrorist in nature.

In a hearing held at the hospital, government officials disregarded Raub’s explanation that the Facebook posts were being interpreted out of context, sentencing him up to 30 days further confinement in a VA psych ward. In coming to Raub’s defense, Rutherford Institute attorneys are challenging Raub's arrest and forcible detention, as well as the government’s overt Facebook surveillance and violation of Raub’’s First Amendment rights.

"For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon. "This should be a wake-up call to Americans that the police state is here," said John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute. “"Brandon Raub is no different from the majority of Americans who use their private Facebook pages to post a variety of content, ranging from song lyrics and political hyperbole to trash talking their neighbors, friends and government leaders."

Brandon Raub, a former Marine who has served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, was detained by FBI agents and police officers at his home in Chesterfield County based upon the nature of content posted to his Facebook page in recent months. Like many Facebook users, Raub uses his FB page to post songs lyrics and air his political opinions, as well as engage in virtual online games with other users. On Thursday, August 16, police and FBI agents arrived at Raub’s home, asking to speak with him about his Facebook posts. They did not provide Raub with a search warrant. Raub was cooperative and agreed to speak with them. Without providing any explanation, levying any charges against Raub or reading him his rights, law enforcement officials then handcuffed Raub and transported him first to the police headquarters, then to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will. Outraged onlookers filmed the arrest and posted the footage to YouTube. Law enforcement officials have stated in press reports that Raub was not arrested. However, as attorney John Whitehead points out, if the police have put handcuffs on you and you're being held against your will, that qualifies as an arrest. In a hearing before a judge on August 20, government officials again pointed to Raub's Facebook posts as the sole reason for their concern and for his continued incarceration. Ignoring Raub'’s explanations about the fact that the FB posts were being read out of context and his attorney’s First Amendment defense, the judge agreed that Raub should be incarcerated at a VA hospital for up to 30 more days. Rutherford Institute attorneys are working to challenge Raub’s detention and the highly unconstitutional nature of the government’s actions.

The Rutherford Institute, a nonprofit civil liberties organization, provides legal assistance at no charge to individuals whose constitutional rights have been threatened or violated.”

Hayden’s Note:

While I understand their reasoning for using the defense that his Facebook comments were taken out of context, or were merely song lyrics, I am dismayed that it is likely their focal point in his defense. I read over quite a few of his comments, and to be honest, they did sound as if he was getting a bit high-strung, perhaps a bit overly agitated, etc. While that is no crime, and I certainly do not advocate pre-crime arrests, if that is how he felt – that he was about to go to war with the shadowy forces within our government, or that he was about to bring about a revolution, they should fight it for what it truly is; free speech.

Don’t try to hide it, or downplay it as song lyrics. I feel very strongly about a lot of topics similar to those, and I voice my dismay both here on the website and on the site’s Facebook Fan Page. I voice my opinions on Twitter and YouTube, and if ever challenged on my beliefs, I would not back down and suggest they were merely quotes or verses.

If the FBI knocked on my door asking about this website, I would offer them a free bumper sticker and then tell them to kick rocks. Our freedoms are a vestige of a bygone era, and those few fragments that remain are quickly being eroded, shattered, covered up, and “amended.” They are being trampled upon by executive orders and secret war powers. They are drowned behind closed doors, and if we do not speak up when those forces are strangling one group’s rights, how are we to argue when they ask for ours? The United States Constitution is literally the framework upon which our civilization is built, and if we ignore it, if we ignore those wise warnings from the Founders regarding tyranny, banking, and human rights, we can expect to wake up destitute and in shackles.

I support Raub, his family, and their upcoming legal battle. This case could very well have grand implications should it rise to the Supreme Court, eventually.

http://www.truthistreason.net/haydens-note-rutherford-institute-defends-us-marine-arrested-for-facebook-posts

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