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We have already covered that article previously - in fact, within the last week or so.

Yes - This shit IS definitely of concern, and is insidious in its evil nature ....

Yet - what is FAR, FAR more dangerous, directly, and currently implemented - are the plethora of illegal searches, detainments, denial of habeus corpus, suspension of right to trial by jury, and stripping of ALL the rights guaranteeing Freedom of Peaceable Assembly. This even occurs directly on the entrance to ANY Court House in even medium size metropolises today - which can't be more 'In Our Faces' than that - and the sheeple not only go along with it, but treat any that OBJECT as tried and convicted criminals.

To the 'military firing on our people' - without going back and finding the exact reference and precise person - Suffice it to repeat what that General had to say about this sort of stuff (which WAS written by a Colonel)

"Colonels write some pretty stupid stuff."

It is too easy for me to go off the deep end of paranoia ... and concentrating on this type of stuff can cause that to happen quickly.

Valid concerns - Absolutely.

Overblown ?

Let us hope so.




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Would Our Own Military Shoot At American Citizens?
By: DueDillinger
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Thu, 16 Aug 12 9:39 AM
Msg. 19332 of 21975

Would Our Own Military Shoot At American Citizens?

Grab a cup of coffee and read this interesting but very long article that contemplates military action against American citizens should domestic civil unrest or violence ensue, all fomented by “political reactionaries” (read: Tea Party types, of course).

http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/full-spectrum-operations-in-the-homeland-a-“vision”-of-the-future

The Washington Times, in turn, editorializes on the same article a few days later.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/7/the-civil-war-of-2016/

All very interesting, if not plain scary. Be sure to read the comments at the end of the first article, if you make it that far.

The authors describe a scenario taking place in (of all places) a SC town where the unrest first occurs:

“In May 2016 an extremist militia motivated by the goals of the “tea party” movement takes over the government of Darlington, South Carolina, occupying City Hall, disbanding the city council, and placing the mayor under house arrest. Activists remove the chief of police and either disarm local police and county sheriff departments or discourage them from interfering…..”

Upon reflection, I can only say, Sheesh! As I managed to wade through this, it became apparent to me that these two authors are little more than liberal nut jobs, not unlike the typical doofusses that populate MSNBC, but with an abundance of “alphabet degrees” and alleged experience that might seem to give them some intellectual legitimacy. That they are earning a living writing this crap amazes me. They assume that Obama is defeated in 2012 (a delightful prospect), his successor makes a worse mess of the economy, and the Tea Party types react, attempt to overthrow the government and the military is called in. If Obama is defeated (rather, WHEN he is defeated), the only credible threat to domestic tranquility, in my estimation, is from the cancerous “parasite class” whose government handouts come to an end, and the realization that they might actually have to work for a living causes them to react violently. The Occupy movement was the tip of this iceberg.

My friend Dr. G’s take on all of this follows:

“There are various doomsday scenarios imagined/contemplated/talked about when a group of folks get together over cigars and speculation. The decline of American ascendancy; the promulgation of class and racial conflict accelerating the fragmentation and Balkanization of American society, the lawlessness of Government at many levels; the falling standard of living and expectations for the future; you know the drill…there are so many others….in the end they ultimately lead to a common point, the possible vs. likely breakdown of the social self control and civil disorder on a mass scale. Tell me that you’ve not thought of this possibility, if you can. If you are able to do so, I think you’re a very unusual person or lying to yourself. In Charlotte, for the time of the DNC in September, our Police Department has been planning for a version of this for a year.

“In the end, the discussions come down to the question “will the U.S. Armed Forces fire upon American citizens in their own cities and homes?”

“Read this chilling article….but especially read the comments. I find it amazing that the War Gaming includes Tea Party supporters with the alleged racist motivated KKK and openly War Games the ultimate Power of the State to be used against them/us so willingly, apparently without consideration of the next phase, the bloody rebellion spoken of in the comments. The results will make Quantrill’s Raid of 150 years ago look like a garden party. You’d think that persons associated with U. Kansas in Lawrence, KS might have considered that outcome.

“Some of the participants in the Scenario Speculation are truly nut jobs……but here are “respected” academics ,military trainers and- lecturers etc giving explanations and excuses for exactly what the craziest among us predict “they’ll” do.

I’m not sure “chilling” does it justice.

http://militantlibertarian.org/2012/08/15/would-our-own-military-shoot-at-american-citizens/

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