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Msg. 18680 of 21975
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If this doesn't strike fear in people's hearts, I don't know what will. Even I'm shocked by that. But think about it,

- The 9/11 bombers were the life of the party in their neighborhoods, friends of all. Their families disappeared. So did they.

- The London bombers were second generation immigrants.

- 800,000 Jews have been driven from their homes in Arab countries, their property seized.

- Now it's the Christian's turn, churches are being burned down and Christians killed in large numbers throughout the Muslim world.

- Europe's a mess.

- Terror attempts are increasing in the US, as well. Many serious plots have been broken up, there were close calls, and Muslims are already practicing sharia and committing murder in the name of their religion (honor killings).

- Ignorant leaders still let them in legally and illegally.

- Peace? The new president of Egypt has already called for jihad prior to the election.

I really think they have become so emboldened and indoctrinated their people to the extent that they actually believe the rhetoric that they will go after Israel on the way to our shores. We better get with it.




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No hope for peace in the Mideast...
By: DueDillinger
in CONSTITUTION
Mon, 25 Jun 12 10:18 PM
Msg. 18671 of 21975

I received the most moving and revealing letter from a young conservative attending university (which shall remain nameless). I want you to read this excerpt (I changed the names, for obvious reasons). This is what my talk to ZOA spoke. This is what the Jewish Federation LA silenced.

Living in East Africa as Jew and an Israeli has its remarkable challenges.  Especially since my family was not associated with big organizations like the UN, IMF, World Bank, etc... like almost all my friends parents were.  My father was doing development work for small NGO's with low budgets.  So my family security and safety was left in our own hands.  I was enrolled in one of the International schools available to expatriates in the city.  It was in this school where I first witnessed and started understanding the propaganda of the left and their obsessive hatred of Israel, and the USA.  The schools entire academic curriculum was dedicated to rationalizing marxism and its historical examples while denigrating the west.  Same thing regarding their treatment of religion in the world.  The orthodox pc view that "all religions are the same" "war is bad" etc...  I experienced lots of direct jew-hatred from both the students who were around me and the school staff itself.  Of which I have many anecdotes to share. 

As an a rational Israeli I had already understood by this time (14 years old) that Islam is dangerous to my existence and to all those I cared about. My return to east africa had introduced me to these dangers directly, face to face so to speak. This email is becoming quite long and I hope that you have borne with me. I will end with one of the numerous anecdotes about my life as the only Israeli/Jew out of 3000 students living in East Africa in the post 9/11 world:

I was 14 years of age and I had numerous friends from numerous countries. I was, however, acutely aware as a 14 year old about what it meant to be Jewish and Israeli and how important it was that I watch my every word and my back both figuratively and literally. One day after school I was playing basketball with my muslim friend Sayed. Being one of the best players in the school, and on the school team, my "friend" Sayed had asked me for some help so he could improve his game. So after school one day I helped him practice and after we finished we were hanging out near the parking lot where parents would come pick students up and he said something to me that I will never forget for my entire life. This was our conversation: It is important to note that .. he was physically distressed .. I have thought about this since so much .. I truly believe he was on the verge of acting on his words .. anyway here is what took place: 

"Jimmy"
"what Sayed"?
"I have to ask talk to you about something"
"Go ahead" I said.
"Listen .. I don't know quite how to say this but .. my parents want me to attack you .. to stab you with a knife"
"What?! What are you talking about Sayed? you're crazy."
"Well .. you know .. I'm a muslim"
"yea so?"
"well I'm supposed to hate you man, you being Israeli and all".
"Why? I don't understand? I've done nothing wrong to you. Aren't you my friend?"
"yea but I dont know what to do .. I don't want to hurt you .. but my parents are upset that I am friends with you and they want me to correct my error"

"what do you mean you don't know what to do. Hopefully you're not going to attack me .. cant you decide for yourself?"
"yea well .. I guess I dont know .. listen we cant be seen together if they come they will be really pissed at me so I'm going to the other side of the lot .. im sorry I dont want to hurt you"
"Its ok Sayed .. I dont know what to say .. I just hope that you don't listen to your parents .. see you tomorrow I guess" 

Luckily he decided not to do what his parents told him .. but from then on he never spoke a word to me again .. always avoided me and never wanted to play basketball or anything else for that matter. Thinking back on it .. I was lucky.

I think the anecdote speaks for itself. I have numerous other ones, a few of the violent nature as well. But this will do for now I believe.

In closing, I had watched the entire 2+ hours of the 'Summer Night for Human Rights' video you posted. What amazing stories .. so tragic and telling of what is to come to our dear free countries if nothing is done and no one hears or is willing to listen to the experience of those individuals who faced such horrors. The one that struck me the most was the kid from Morocco .. what a story. I wish I could meet him one day and give him my support.

This is the same thing as an incident (recounted by David Pryce-Jones in his book The Closed Circle) from the Ottoman Empire of the late nineteenth century, recounted by the wife of a Muslim family that had lived peacefully next to a Christian family for years:

Then one night, my husband came home and told me that the padisha had sent word that we were to kill all the Christians in our village, and that we would have to kill our neighbours. I was very angry, and told him that I did not care who gave such orders, they were wrong. These neighbours had always been kind to us, and if he dared to kill them Allah would pay us out. I tried all I could to stop him, but he killed them — killed them with his own hand.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/06/a-jewish-kid-in-a-muslim-land-jfedla.html

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