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Re: Radioactive Isotope Environmental Release by Vulcanism and Tectonic-Plate Spreading 

By: DueDillinger in CONSTITUTION | Recommend this post (1)
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It's all about the keywords, mon. I tried a few different searches and glommed better keywords from 'em. Radon has a half-life of a few days, but one of its daughters--polonium 210--is more persistent. The 'much greater than' lines only appear in sensationalist articles that Google News retrieves. I couldn't access the original Battelle study without paying a fee.

The overall impression I get is that that vulcanism is not a significant source for release of uranium and/or plutonium isotopes, and that the much greater threat is nuclear 'accidents', waste storage and use of depleted uranium in weapons. One article noted there were 25,000 'hot' spots (buried waste, sunken subs, etc.) in the former Soviet Union.

Right now, the greatest threat we face is economic collapse. If it is deep and long enough, such a collapse will inevitably lead to nuclear crisis as facilities melt down from lack of maintenance, spare parts and electrical grid failure.

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Re: Radioactive Isotope Environmental Release by Vulcanism and Tectonic-Plate Spreading
By: monkeytrots
in CONSTITUTION
Mon, 04 Jun 12 10:42 AM
Msg. 18452 of 21975

Thank-you, Due - the article on the Mt. St. Helens Eruption is pretty decent.

Radioactivity in the Ash
There is radioactivity associated with all terrestrial
matter. Four of the most common radioactive isotopes
present in geologic material are 40K, 238U, 226Ra, and 232Th (primordialradionucides). Concentrations of4K, 226Ra, and 22Th in the bulk ash from the May 18 eruption ranged from 6.06 to 10.3 pCi/g,. 0.314 to 0.552 pCi/g, and 0.067 to 0.116 Ci/g, respectively.6'26 When 226Ra decays, a transition occurs from a solid to a noble gas, 222Rn(radon). Aver


Ce and one other item are the only 'commonly' measured radioactive contaminants (besides Radon - which is more a 'buzz-scare' than anything else) - the other common radioactive elements are not talked about a whole lot. There is no estimate of 'total radiation' from the four common ones (ie. concentration times total volume estimates) readily accessible for Mt. St. Helens. Please note, the amount of volcanic material released at the 'spreading plates' does dwarf single events such as St. Helens.

Good start - but not definitive.

The Radon levels of St. Helens were not a concern - because with such a short half-life, the concentrations have to be very high to cause concern. THis is NOT the case with very long half-life isotopes such as the common K,U,Ra, and Th isotopes released - ie. one can not compare the 'concentrations' and say that because the Radon was not a concern, that the others are not a concern.

And this begs the issue of comparison to total volume, total radiation release from Fukushima and vulcanics.


The articles you posted DID compare to 3MI - and said the vulcanics releases were 'several times higher' ...exact term 'many times more significant' than total radiation releases from 3MI.

Greatly appreciate the investigative work, Due - I was getting very little in a big hurry ... either you're better at searching, skimming, and more patient than I ... or .... all three. lol


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