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Re: Blue Republicans

By: RalphOmega in CONSTITUTION | Recommend this post (0)
Mon, 12 Dec 11 8:21 AM | 72 view(s)
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Msg. 16535 of 21975
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Resources in general are increasingly scarce, but especially in the mideast, nothing...not even oil...is more important than water. If you read the narrative of the 6-day war that I posted yesterday, you may have noted that the real trigger for hostilities was an Arab attack on a critical Israeli water supply.

Tension began developing between Israel and Arab countries in the 1960s. Israel began to implement its National Water Carrier plan, which pumps water from the Sea of Galilee to irrigate south and central Israel. The project was in accordance with a plan proposed by US envoy Eric Johnston in 1955, and agreed to by Arab engineers. Arab governments refused to participate however, because of the implied recognition of Israel. In secret meetings, Israel and Jordan agreed to abide by the water quotas set by the plan.
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The Syrians, who had broken with Nasser's pan-Arabism, countered by supporting Fatah and attempted to take over the Fatah group. Syrian army intelligence recruited terrorists for actions against Israel, giving credit for the operations to Fatah. The first of these actions was announced on December 31, 1964, an attack on the Israel water carrier at Beit Netopha, but in fact no attack had taken place. A second attempt was made on January 2, 1965, but the explosives charge was disarmed. However, successful attacks soon followed on January 14 and February 28.
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In several summit conferences beginning in 1964, Arab leaders ratified the establishment of the PLO, declared their resolve to destroy Israel, and decided to divert the sources of the Jordan river that feed the Sea of Galilee, to prevent Israel from implementing the water carrier plan. The Syrians and Lebanese began to implement the diversions. Israel responded by firing on the tractors and equipment doing the work in Syria, using increasingly accurate and longer range guns as the Syrians moved the equipment from the border. This was followed by Israeli attempts to cultivate the demilitarized zones (DMZ) as provided in the armistice agreements. Israel was within its rights according to the armistice agreements, but Moshe Dayan claimed many years later that 80% of the incidents were deliberately provoked. In reality, the incidents were provoked in order to draw artillery fire, so that Israel would have an excuse to fire on the equipment being used by the Syrians for diversion of the headwaters of the Jordan.  

http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/6daywar.htm

Here's a BBC article on water supply as an obstacle to peace in the region:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11101797

As for Ron Paul furthering the plans of the Islamic enemy, that is a simple conclusion likely born of insufficient consideration of the actual proposed policies. What part of 'we can't afford our overextended empire' do you not understand? Printing more money to support the military monster is not gonna work. It's worth noting that Paul enjoys significant support from Americans in uniform--more than any other candidate.

A significant part of Paul's foreign policy is economic--increased foreign trade instead of foreign aid. He doesn't propose a weak military at all, but rather a redirection away from the obviously failed and corrupt nation-building approach. He isn't a pacifist and doesn't say America shouldn't fight. He just insists that war be properly declared by Congress as specified in the Constitution.


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Re: Blue Republicans
By: lkorrow
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Mon, 12 Dec 11 7:38 AM
Msg. 16531 of 21975

Blue Republicans and Far Left? Hmmmmmmm. Seems mutually exclusive. I thought until you said Far Left that Maybe they were Blue Dogs that went over the border.

Do you suppose people like Tariq Rammadan, enemies of state banned from the US and allowed in by the Obama administration, with Hillary's support, will be swept up? If so, we should have parties like the Palestinians did after 9/11? He's not an American, though.

There is a big concern with terror recruiting of Americans, especially in the prisons. Then, there's all those Islamist training camps they seem to like to allow running, which are training a paramilitary cadre, including bomb experts. I wish they would shut it all down, they seem to be creating a higher likelihood of what they are trying to prevent.

Spengler says the bad boys in the Mid East will be all the more dangerous as they go into crisis through demographic decline, which most of them, including Iran, are going through now. In other words, he believes they will feel they have nothing to lose and go for it. We are in peril.

I Suspect this is manifest in the Saudis deciding not to drill for oil. They want that $100B for jihad. That's arguable, naturally.

This act has many things going for it. But, there is also room for abuse, like framing people, which I suspect happens. Perhaps not regularly... But in the wrong hands, like the communists in charge of our country today, this is worrisome, as they will go for political prisoners.

So much for truth, justice and the American way.

Pape's findings don't matter. Yes, it's valid they go after what they call occupiers. But are we occupiers? We do not occupy/rule their countries, we do business with them. Getting rid of the occupiers is another way to state the jihad, it's a recruiting tool. The jihad is against infidels, not just countries doing business in the Middle East or occupying it. It's not going away if we left. There's no way to turn them off (unless the powers that be have decided a global meltdown will do the trick. Would that work? Perhaps. My brain isn't to the point of figuring that one out.

Rambling on now, but is Spain an occupier? I don't think al Qaeda's mindeset is condusive to conditions on the ground today. Al Qaeda, the MB and the rest of the Islamists are going for the brass rin. They are doing what they said, taking over apostate (in their eyes) regimes, consolidating power and going after the infidels from within and violently when it suits them.

When we first defeated the Taliban, we left al Qaeda alone in Pakistan and they took over the Taliban and now we have a mess. THat's what sanctuaries do for you.

Ron Paul would further our enemies plans.


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