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Re: There's Crooks, then there's JPM...

By: DueDillinger in CONSTITUTION | Recommend this post (0)
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Msg. 14507 of 21975
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If there's a 'run' on the gold/silver vaults, JPM is toast. Comex is also running without the physical assets to cover all the bets.

We could have a scenario where the precious metals ETFs collapse (taking the market with 'em) while the price of physical precious metal goes parabolic.

Harvey Organ sez:

You can now imagine what is going on behind the scenes. The Bank of England will recall its gold from the GLD. If that gold from GLD is now gone to sovereign China, India, Russia, South Korea, Mexico, and to wealthy Europeans fleeing the Euro, then the Bank cannot retrieve its swapped gold to repay Chavez. Not only that but the Bank of England is not the ultimate owner of the gold..it is probably wealthy Arabs or oil barons like Chavez. You can now imagine the wild scenarios possible. Gold was at its nadir of the day and shot up big time on the news of the repatriation of gold. Many understand the significance of today's announcement.

http://harveyorgan.blogspot.com/2011/08/gold-hits-record-close-at.html

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By: lkorrow
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Thu, 18 Aug 11 7:15 AM
Msg. 14505 of 21975

So where does JPM get the money to buy gold when there's a run on it by world banks who might have exxpected their gold to be in the vault? 100:1! Who's watching.

Oh give me a home, where the buffalo roam, and the deer and the antlope play. . . .
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Nothing is sacred, not even a deposit of physical gold.

As Chavez Pulls Venezuela's Gold From JP Morgan, Is The Great Scramble For Physical Starting?

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 08/17/2011 16:27 -0400

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/chavez-pulls-venezuelas-gold-jp-morgan-great-scramble-physical-starting

In addition to the nationalization of his gold insutry, Chavez earlier also announced that he would recover virtually all gold that Venezuela hold abroad, starting with 99 tons of gold at the Bank of England. As the WSJ reported earlier, "The Bank of England recently received a request from the Venezuelan government about transferring the 99 tons of gold Venezuela holds in the bank back to Venezuela, said a person familiar with the matter. A spokesman from the Bank of England declined to comment whether Venezuela had any gold on deposit at the bank." That's great, but not really a gamechanger. After all the BOE should have said gold. What could well be a gamechanger is that according to an update from Bloomberg, Venezuela has gold with, you guessed it, JP Morgan, Barclays, and Bank Of Nova Scotia. As most know, JPM is one of the 5 vault banks. The fun begins if Chavez demands physical delivery of more than 10.6 tons of physical because as today's CME update of metal depository statistics, JPM only has 338,303 ounces of registered gold in storage. Or roughly 10.6 tons. A modest deposit of this size would cause some serious white hair at JPM as the bank scrambles to find the replacement gold, which has already been pledged about 100 times across the various paper markets. Keep an eye on gold in the illiquid after hour market. The overdue scramble for delivery may be about to begin.


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