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Re: â��Made In China: How Coronavirus Chaos Could Have Been Avoidedâ�� 

By: micro in POPE 5 | Recommend this post (1)
Tue, 10 Mar 20 6:41 PM | 29 view(s)
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If I catch that covid-19 I likely will not survive it.
I already have bad lungs that are damaged from years of pneunomia and bronchitis and have some difficulty at times getting enough air.

So I am susceptible more than most. Glad we have a goodly stockpile things to eat here in camp micro....


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Re: “Made In China: How Coronavirus Chaos Could Have Been Avoided”
By: Decomposed in POPE 5
Tue, 10 Mar 20 4:17 PM 		Msg. 54903 of 62138

Nemo:

Re: "The ongoing panic surrounding a virus that nearly all health professionals have stated is little worse than the common flu that we face each [year] and..."I'm surprised that the contrarian in you doesn't have its hackles up right now. Don't you see how you're being played?

First, there is no such thing as the "common flu." The disease they're trying to confuse us with is the "common cold," but it's obvious that SARS-CoV-2 is anything but that even though, biologically, that's what it evolved from. The flu is different every time it comes around, far from common, and it sometimes kills. But people are familiar with it and since they're still here, it obviously didn't kill THEM. That makes it something to be a little less fearful of than a disease that has SOME OF the same symptoms and is otherwise out of their realm of experience.

Second, why conflate the two diseases in the first place? Comparisons between the two have become so pervasive that I'm seeing a LOT of people claiming that SARS-CoV-2 is "just" a flu. Influenza and SARS-CoV-2 are NOT the same thing. When it kills, influenza usually does so via heart failure; SARS-CoV-2 kills via pneumonia. That's quite different. How about if we instead start comparing Covid-19 to a disease that is at least similar in that it affects our ability to breathe? Let's start saying that Covid-19 is like the "COMMON TUBERCULOSIS." Think that would go over well? Uh, maybe not. But it's just as honest. Or dishonest.

Third, we were told over and over, up until just a few days ago, that buying supplies in preparation for Covid-19 isn't a good idea. Now, suddenly, that's changed. Those over 60 SHOULD start buying things they need. Hm. What changed? Absolutely nothing. But the lie bought TPTB a few extra weeks of lack of concern by the public. Apparently that mattered, especially since those were the same weeks when TPTB had no test kits because they had screwed up and manufactured kits that targeted THREE illnesses instead of just the one. The kits' additional complexity led to the creation of kits that didn't work at all, so they had to start anew. How to quell the public outrage? Tell them that the disease is such a small issue that they don't even need to prepare for it. Now they finally have the kits we need... the disease has spread to nearly every state... and they're changing the story to alert us that we'd better get ready for it.

Fourth, Covid-19 shut down China. It shut down Iran. It shut down South Korea. It shut down Italy. Does that sound like a disease that should be trivialized?

Remember: Three things matter when there's an epidemic:

1: Its mortality (the average person's chance of dying if he catches it),
2: How quickly it's spreading and
3: How many people have it.

The flu is only really bad on item #3. Covid-19 is really bad on the first two: Mortality is about 85 times that of influenza, and it grows between 10 and 20 times as quickly. (Influenza's R0 is 1.3 and SARS-CoV-2's R0 is between 4 and 7.) If the trend doesn't change (see below), Covid-19 will get really bad on item #3 - the number of people who have the disease - in April and overwhelm us in May.

That's why it's a big deal. Covid-19 is still an infant, but it is growing up VERY quickly. Italy has been completely shut down by Covid-19. Notice how the cases in Italy grew and compare that to what's happening in the U.S. today. I'd say we've been lucky so far, but we aren't that far behind the countries that have already collapsed.

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