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I wish I knew the answer to that.
You won;t find that in the New Testament or Old among God's people. Moses "bones" were buried or put in a cave somewhere.

This is a pagan thing and not something God told believers to do, at least not in my Bible. Nor the masoretic text or the Septuigent which both are texts and as close to originals that what we call the Bible came from.

They are old and ancient and many of the books were writenin 500 BC , some older and some newer.

The Torah was written by Moses much earlier than that.

Anyway, cremation is not a means of burial that God ever had in mind for his people.

So I particularly do not understand Christians who do this.
I suppose it could be to save money and costs for those left behind but even so I find it very scary to do something that God did not say was alright. He said to BURY the dead, not burn them.

Interesting question about this thing called cremation and whether it is right for Chritians to do such a thing or not.... In my Church we say no it is not... BAsed on Biblical teachings..

But obviously we cannot tell people what to do or coerce anyone. Can only explain what God says about death and burying the body.... One day it will be raised from the grave. Kind of hard to do that when there is no grave, and nor remains to the body at all.


Just my viewopint and I am confident there will be different ones.....


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Why Is Cremation Growing in Popularity?
By: Decomposed
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Sat, 18 Jan 20 11:56 PM
Msg. 49293 of 62138

January 17, 2020

Why Is Cremation Growing in Popularity?

The human flourishing we call civilization has more complex and ambitious dimensions than the most beautiful flowers of the distant meadow. Apparently, that is becoming a minority view.

by Charles Heatherly
AMgreatness.com


R ecently I had to oversee the cremation of my younger brother, who died suddenly near his home in Phoenix. Unlike me, Luther Heatherly was a passionate environmentalist of the “Earth First” persuasion; his radical views made Al Gore look like Boone Pickens.

A poet and strident essayist, my brother’s self-published 2003 book, The Last Human Spring, was a radical critique of industrial society’s uncritical worship of technology. The planned scattering of my brother’s ashes this spring on a remote Arizona creek respects his dedication to environmentalism: If he had lived east of the Hudson, no doubt he would have wanted his ashes scattered near Walden Pond.

And yet, as appropriate as cremation was for my brother in view of his uncompromising naturalism, something bothered me profoundly about his cremation and the obligatory “scattering” of the human ashes. Cremation is not only traditional among millions of Hindus and Buddhists, but it is also increasingly accepted in the Western world across many religions. In my brother’s hometown of Phoenix, according to one news report, 60 percent of funerals now involve cremation, not burial.

What troubles me most about this growing trend has nothing to do with cremation per se. What to me is problematic is the neo-pagan ceremony of scattering the human ashes—typically at the beach, a river, or in the wilderness. This scattering appeals to many people as a final resting place preferable to the cold soil of the graveyard. But this sentiment overlooks a significant paradox: theological considerations aside, cemeteries and their monuments, like funerals and a period of mourning, exist more for the benefit of the living than the dead.

Socially and culturally, the scattering of human ashes in the ocean or a distant wilderness sends a very different message from burial in a family vault or local cemetery. We need to ask, is that message salutary for human civilization, for what my brother called “human nurturing”? Is the irresistible efficiency of technological innovation the only social transformation with “vast unintended consequences”?

In the case of cremation, I think the answer is by no means clear. The traditional cemetery, religious or secular, is a visible, ubiquitous reminder of our collective link to the past. Removing cemetery visits from our personal lives suggests, however indirectly or subtly, that it is not really important to honor and respect parents and ancestors on whose shoulders our own proud achievements are built.

Undeniably, that generational inheritance—in every society—is a double-edged sword: in every society that inheritance has both positive and negative dimensions, as the sins and shortcomings of our ancestors are numerous and often burdensome. Did some of my Tennessee ancestors rob banks or own slaves?

It seems that to a growing number of people, cremation and the scattering of human ashes in a setting reminiscent of Earth before it was overrun and raped by mankind offers a nobler “final resting place” than conventional burial in a cemetery. Every human invention and human institution is scarred by human crimes and failures, presumably foreign to the primordial world of natural selection. In my brother’s apocalyptic view, industrial technology has perverted natural selection and social evolution into a dystopian horror.

All the same, it remains indisputably true that each human being is more than a collection of ashes floating in nature’s galactic river. Human flourishing and noble accomplishments are not only still possible, they are all around us in great abundance. And contrary to my brother’s skepticism about human inventiveness, that human flourishing requires more than pristine forests, sunshine, and rainbows.

Yes, “ashes to ashes, dust to dust” is a sobering reminder of the finite character of our earthly journey. Yet, Aristotle is not alone in seeing human striving as both existential and purposeful. The human flourishing we call civilization has more complex and ambitious dimensions than the most beautiful flowers of the distant meadow. Apparently, that is becoming a minority view.

http://amgreatness.com/2020/01/17/why-is-cremation-growing-in-popularity/


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