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Re: Some food for discussion 

By: Zimbler0 in POPE 5 | Recommend this post (2)
Sun, 12 Jan 20 3:04 AM | 27 view(s)
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Micro > I haven't figured out HOW to do it but one thing I am thinking is what happens if we just say let those people kill themselves and determine their own destiny and get out of their and worry about our own selves?


One school, of thought . . . has it that
by abandoning Afghanistan after they managed to 'Vietnam' the Russians
out we set the stage for the rise of the Taliban and al qaida finding a
home-sweet-terrorist-home in Afghanistan.

Another school of thought . . .
Seems like every third world dictator with delusions of grandeur wants
to either expand their tax base by stealing the lands or resources of
their neighbors . . . or they feel the need to distract their disloyal
citizens with foreign adventures.

Pakistan. Has been trying to control Afghanistan via the taliban.
Pakistan is also sending terrorists into India and Afghanistan.

China is trying to claim the entire South China Sea - stealing rich
fishing grounds and off shore oil deposits from the other countries
in the region.

Russia took a bite off a country called 'Georgia' and two bigger bites
out of a country named 'Ukraine'.

And then there is iran. Screaming 'Death to America' and 'Death to Israel'
on a regular basis. With proxy armies in place in Lebanon (Hezbollah),
Gaza (Hamas), Yemen rebels . . . And word has it that around 2012 iran
was planning on blowing up a restaurant in D.C. to kill somebody they
don't like - and the obozo administration chose to ignore it in hopes it
would not derail that phony-baloney 'no-nukes' treaty they was desparate
to buy. (The attempted bombing was foiled.) And let us not forget all the
times the stinking iranians 'arranged' for attacks on American interests
and attacks on American soldiers in Iraq . . . .

Ideally the United Nations should be curbing the larcenous leanings of
these 'expansionist' minded 'empires' . . . . But I think we can all
see that the U.N. is about as useful as tits on a boar hog.

Zim.




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Some food for discussion
By: micro in POPE 5
Sat, 11 Jan 20 4:23 PM 		Msg. 48824 of 62138

I have been thinking, which is usally a dangerous thing but the fact is Ribs, me, DG, and some others have been to war and involved in combat. So we have an idea of what things are like under fire and seeing the damage humans sustain when being hit by flying lead of all types.

So I have been rethinking the President's platform on which he ran about ending wars and getting the heck out of places on the other side of the world like Pakisatn, Afghanistan, the middle east in general includig Iran and Iraq.

I haven't figured out HOW to do it but one thing I am thinking is what happens if we just say let those people kill themselves and determine their own destiny and get out of their and worry about our own selves?

Seriously, do we have to be the world's policeman? I am all for being well prepared witha military force that poses a real danger to ANY who would think to do harm to us here at home, but I really find it after decades now tiresome to always be mired in a mess involving ragheads from Eurasia and Somalia in Africa. Kinda far from home and what exactly have we gained except lots of casualties and debt to support all the military equipment, and ammunition supplies?

Could we simply mind our own business for awhile? We have enough problems of our own here and think of the money we could save. Maybe even require and demand a Constituional BALANCED Budget and require paying off the debt every year by a percentage until it is wiped out..

Just some thoughts but I like several of them....

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