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Re: Me has a theroy on buying gold or buying canned beans!!!!!!!!!!! 

By: capt_nemo in POPE 5 | Recommend this post (2)
Fri, 15 Nov 19 1:16 AM | 25 view(s)
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for your blazing WELL THOUGHT out rendition DE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I knew you would have solutions for my dilemma. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


OF course I will have more then beans, I will have canned chicken and tuna, chili, all the good stuff. If a can isn't swelled up, first sign of going bad, I will open it, smell it and if all seems good I will give it a little try. And I have grains, noodles and that stuff all packaged up. I will find a sunny spot for a garden sometime. It will be down below. Living here in the woods nothing grows for me, except, All those garlic and shallot bulbs Hydro sent me, Those dang things are 2" out of the ground now. I thought they went dormant during cold months.........


It will be interesting when we have to work to survive for sure....




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Re: Me has a theroy on buying gold or buying canned beans!!!!!!!!!!!
By: Decomposed in POPE 5
Thu, 14 Nov 19 10:46 PM 		Msg. 44592 of 62138

Nemo:

Re: "When SHTF, and you know it will, there will be no food" - and - "LOL Just thinkin again, carry on......"Yup, and yup. Thinking is good. I don't believe that many people think. Maybe a better way of putting it is that not many people think about the things that matter.

I still remember clo batting her ditsy little eyes and saying that she knew the mounting debt was a problem but didn't worry about it because she "believed someone smart would come up with a solution." (Classic "bury your head in the sand" syndrome.) I didn't have the heart to tell her that I am "someone smart" (relative to her, I'm a frickin' genius) and there is no happy solution.

The ones who are smart are the very same folks who created this mess in the first place. They devised a scheme to steal the wealth of the world and gave it to a figurative handful of people. Imagine a world where 7 billion people are enslaved by just a thousand. That may be humanity's future.

Re: "SO my theory is if I bought an ounce of gold cost in Canned beans once a month, I would have 34,678 cases of beans. Who's going to survive, Me or the guy with 100 OZ of gold in their closet?????????????????????? HMMMMMMMMM"That's good speculation, but there's a flaw in it:

You think that with beans, you'll survive. But you might not - because you also need water. And oxygen. Maybe medicine. Blankets. Snow boots. Shelter. There are all kinds of things people need in order to survive, and gold isn't one of them. Or is it?

Let's stick with beans. Do you think I don't have beans? I do. The can on the left is from my private reserve. But do you see that writing on the top of the can?




It's a problem. If you can't make it out . . .





. . . then take a closer look. Maybe I should turn the can.



As hydro's dog Scooby would say, "Ruht-roh!!"

I'll still eat these beans. They're only 5 years past their "Best by" date and I don't throw things away if they're still useful. Beans that old still taste good. Nutritionally, they will be lacking. A few years more and they won't have nutritional value at all. Eventually, botulism will set in and they'll kill you if you eat 'em. What'll that get you? A bunch of toxic beans that only a botox doctor would want. They'd only be valuable if you're trading with Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden.

Apart from that, there's the question of where you're going to store these thousands of cases of beans. I'm not even going to get into the issue of what happens if your can opener breaks.
Re: "Now If I bought an ounce of gold a month, I would have a chitpot full of valuable gold, BUT when SHTF and there is no food to buy, what good is having golds???? "It's true, when SHTF, you won't be able to eat gold. But you might run into someone like yourself who is thinking a bit further down the road, who realizes that the bad times will one day end. They will end, you know. When they do, beans that were acquired in quantity will be utterly worthless but gold will make the bearer comparatively well off. This is essentially how some folks emerged from the Great Depression with fabulous wealth. When no one else wanted stock because stock certificates can't be eaten, they were happily buying up blue chips for a song. When everyone else ceased being desperate, the stocks were worth a fortune.

So a healthy *mix* of beans... and medicines... and gold... and other things too is what it's really all about. The problem is that while most hurricane preppers are well stocked with buckets of rice and bottles of water, hardly anyone has any gold. That's why gold is still cheap. A lot of folks will come to their senses one day and start buying it up. It won't take much of that to drive its price waaaaaay up.
Re: "Folks like DE grow their gardens which is fine , but when SHTF I dont think its going to be a quick recovery from it this time, and DE better have a BIG ASS GARDEN LOL..........."This year's garden was only 300 square feet. If the plot I've laid out for next year gets fully planted, it will be 6,000 square feet. That's pretty big, but it still won't be big enough. I need fruit trees, nut trees, a good source of oils (sunflowers, maybe?), a good source of sugar (maple trees, maybe?), a good source of salt, wheat, etc.

Most importantly, I need to be canning. A huge garden won't do any good most of the time since crops are only ripe for a small part of each year.

Then there's another issue: Food you can yourself is only nutritious for ONE YEAR. (Professionally canned foods last longer.) I've seen so many tv shows where preppers have ten years of canned foods. Guess what? Canned foods don't last that long. So they're wasting much of their time unless they're rotating their cans at a fantastic rate.

The real solution is freeze drying. I need to buy a freeze dryer ... which will be expensive... and put it to some serious use.

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