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Re: Is It Time for America to Break Apart?

By: micro in POPE 5 | Recommend this post (0)
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Earlier, micro asked why anyone would ever get rid of free labor if they weren't forced to. I'll respond with a question of my own: Do you see many farmers today who still plow their fields with oxen?  

The WAR was NOT begun nor started about Slavery. Thankfully it ended with the enslaved peoples freed.

As for the anaology about oxen, it hardly fits.
1. Oxen are not FREE.
2. They cost farmers food, grain, water, and anything else they eat or need.
3. You honestly believe that southern plantation owners would have freed those slaves whom they PAID FOR and got nothingin return?

Perhaps, one should ponder this question. I wonder if SLAVERY around these other far flung places opf theworld would have occurred had it not been forcefully stopped here in the UNited States? After all, we were a world power then and just about everyone globally knew the U.S. especially because we defeated England TWICE on our own soil.

I do not believe your theorem holds any proof or reason to believe the outcome stated.

Secondly, I would ask if your meaning for this might include "never mind about those enslaved people lives for the next 30 years. Whatever happens to them happens. Whoever's left after 30 years will be left."

Thatis what it sounds like you are inferring. It's OKAY for them to contiinue to be enslaved for nother thirty years or so.

That to me is a pretty big stretch with no substantiatiion other than some other third world countries finally ended it there but then again, NONE OF THEM had vast Southern Plantatiopns that needed LOTS of labor to tend the fields and crops...

So its okay to go ahead and just leave them in slavery for 30 more years???

You still have never responded that it's OKAY to sneak up behind ANYONE and shoot them in the head at point blank range because YOU do not like their politics....

You did state however that it was fine with you that Booth murdered Lincoln and was glad he did.

Have you re-considered that thought?

If not, then that makes your train of thought no better than the morons on the left would kill you in a heartbeat because you support Trump and cannot stand the looney leftists...

Just a couple of things to ponder.


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Re: Is It Time for America to Break Apart?
By: Decomposed
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Tue, 30 Jul 19 7:27 PM
Msg. 36919 of 62138

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Re: "...because evil does not stop on it's own."
That's a good mantra, but facts don't bear it out. Slavery ended in dozens of countries after our civil war... and apartheid ended in South Africa. There was usually some nudging, but never war. It ended mostly on its own. By the late 19th century, slavery was no longer practical.

Did you know that the British Empire still allowed slaves in its protectorates in the 20th century? But it ended. Without violence.

No other country in the world had to rip itself asunder in order to end slavery. Only we did. But, then, we didn't rip ourselves apart for that reason. We ripped ourselves apart because we had a Commander-In-Chief who decided to deny some states one of their rights.

Earlier, micro asked why anyone would ever get rid of free labor if they weren't forced to. I'll respond with a question of my own: Do you see many farmers today who still plow their fields with oxen? It seems that farmers got rid of their free labor when something better came along. That's how it works.

Technology played a huge role in ending slavery around the world. Tractors are a heck of a lot more effective and lower maintenance than a bunch of whining, uneducated, unpredictable and sometimes sickly slaves. So, as technology advanced, the need and desire for slaves went away. All over the world.

And, yes, it would have happened in the United States. Our cultural advances never lagged Europe's by all that much.


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