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By: Zimbler0 in POPE 5 | Recommend this post (2)
Fri, 14 Jun 19 10:45 PM | 71 view(s)
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Hydro_Gen > You guys really do NOT think, that what I will call the Masters of the Universe, have not hidden these discoveries for their own gains and continued stranglehold on the planet?? You guys must actually trust our Government (you ALL seem to love and want to keep the IRS LOL)


Trust the government?
Not with all those lying thieving demoncarps in it.

But what can one do? Every 'solution' seems to call for more government 'control'.
You seem to want the government to search the patents . . . the same government you
accuse of hiding the patents in the first place.

Kind of like accusing a fox of eating your chickens . . . then demanding said
fox guard your chicken house.

You also claimed the internal combustion engine is not very efficient.
That is true enough. But, it is relatively cheap and very reliable.

You also said the Model-T got 13 to 21 mpg . . . The Model-T had a tiny engine
driving a light weight vehicle. My mid sized pickup trucks got better mileage
and weighed a lot more. (And went a LOT faster.)

But OK. I've been told that gas turbines are a lot more fuel efficient than
internal combustion engines . . . But the special materials make them a lot
more expensive than the piston engines on our cars. (That would be why
airlines fly jets these days.) There's a trade-off. Do 'we' try to build
gas turbine auto-mobiles that will cost a lot more . . . or do we go with the
tried and true gas engines we use today?

Most important of all. There are con artists, charlatans, and outright thieves
all over the place. When oil prices shot up in the 1970's a number of the
charlatans saw opportunity. Come up with something cockimany enough and convoluted
enough but promising sounding . . . get the rubes (investors) to shower the would
be inventors with money . . . and run away with the money before the fraud is
uncovered.

Kind of like Obozo was going to make green energy work . . . By showering taxpayers
money all over his friends for pretending to be green energy companies. Then they
all declared bankruptcy so's they wouldn't have to pay the money back.

Zim.




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Free energy
By: hydro_gen
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Fri, 14 Jun 19 2:34 PM
Msg. 33993 of 62138

Zimbler you mentioned One can use electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. I know of no way to use 'waste heat' to crack water. So, if there was a cost effective way to use waste heat off an engine to generate electricity . . . then why do all cars still have alternators on them? So MY point is ICEs are extremely inefficient (25%ish to a max of maybe 50%) and their wasted energy is MORE than just heat. There is a lot of energy 75% to 50% that could be harnessed, mechanically in conjunction with an undisclosed invention for example, and this kind of disruptive invention would devastate the almighty petro chokehold. The Model T car got 13 to 21 MPG. That was 110 years ago. We went from the Wight Brothers biplane flying 59 seconds and 852 feet in 1903 to the SR 71 in 1964, a mere 61 years later and a massive leap in technology. WHY have we not accomplished the same with energy?? WHY??????

Nacl01 you stated We have the internet and search engines that can find these obscure patents buried in the archives. The USPTO is NOT ACCESSABLE to ALL patents and there are many inventions that were bought and buried and because of potentially being published not ALL inventions have been filed with the USPTO. What is MY basis for this? Simple. Disruptive technologies can and imho ARE buried and shielded by The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 http://fas.org/sgp/othergov/invention/35usc17.html and the index http://fas.org/sgp/othergov/invention/index.html A little snippet: The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 requires the government to impose "secrecy orders" on certain patent applications that contain sensitive information, thereby restricting disclosure of the invention and withholding the grant of a patent. Remarkably, this requirement can be imposed even when the application is generated and entirely owned by a private individual or company without government sponsorship or support. At the end of fiscal year 2018, there were 5,792 secrecy orders in effect. You also stated Good luck at finding them. Seriously, the world can benefit from any of these long-lost technologies we can find. And THAT is precisely WHY we should have a Manhattan Style search and FIND them!!! Or prove they do not exist.

And Ribit you stated they are not long lost technologies they are never existed in the first place technologies. The laws of thermodynamics apply no matter how bad ya hates em. BULLCHIT!!! Laws of thermodynamics aside, that sire is exactly why they are called INVENTIONS!!!!

You guys really do NOT think, that what I will call the Masters of the Universe, have not hidden these discoveries for their own gains and continued stranglehold on the planet?? You guys must actually trust our Government (you ALL seem to love and want to keep the IRS LOL) to do what is right for WE THE PEOPLE? Sadly, in my short life, times have changed for the worse.

HAPPY Friday yall. Looks like I will be harvesting my shallots in the not too distant future. YEA!!!!


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