« POPE 5 Home | Email msg. | Reply to msg. | Post new | Board info. Previous | Home | Next

Re: Letter to the editor: Re: MICRO

By: Decomposed in POPE 5 | Recommend this post (0)
Mon, 10 Jun 19 6:39 PM | 37 view(s)
Boardmark this board | Pope 5
Msg. 33741 of 62138
(This msg. is a reply to 33739 by micro)

Jump:
Jump to board:
Jump to msg. #

micro:

Re: "The 23 percent is deplorable."
Very good catch. While I could support a National Sales Tax (instead of an income tax), I'd never go along with 23%. What's more, I'd be afraid that the National Sales Tax would be a Value Added Tax - meaning that whoever buys ore would have to pay 23%, whoever buys I-beams smelted from that ore would have to pay 23%, whoever buys the warehouse constructed from those I-beams would have to pay 23%, whatever vendor buys lamps stored in that warehouse would have to pay 23%, and the end user who buys a lamp at their local department store would have to pay 23%. At every step, the government would be collecting, causing prices to soar. Of course, higher prices mean still MORE $$ for the government.

According to Motley Fool:

With that in mind, the average American pays $10,489 in "personal taxes," representing 14% of the average household's total income. This includes federal and state income taxes, as well as other taxes such as personal property taxes, vehicle taxes, and certain other small taxes.

$8,367 of this amount is federal income taxes, $2,046 is state and local taxes, and $75 is other small taxes.

http://www.fool.com/taxes/2018/04/22/how-much-does-the-average-american-pay-in-taxes.aspx


If this is accurate, then the average American currently pays 14% in both federal and state taxes, but would pay 23% under the "FairTax" - not even counting its enormous "value added" implications.

Sorry, hydro_gen. It's not a good proposal. The rate would have to be something like 10 percent with no "value added" implications before it would make sense.




Avatar

Gold is $1,581/oz today. When it hits $2,000, it will be up 26.5%. Let's see how long that takes. - De 3/11/2013 - ANSWER: 7 Years, 5 Months


- - - - -
View Replies (2) »



» You can also:
- - - - -
The above is a reply to the following message:
Re: Letter to the editor: Re: MICRO
By: micro
in POPE 5
Mon, 10 Jun 19 6:14 PM
Msg. 33739 of 62138

Hi again Hydro-gen.

Okay, so I went to the site and looked. I then have pondered in my mind a few things.

I have a couple of conclusions I came to myself.

The STATE, has a sales tax already on almost everything we buy except food. So in my State, county, I pay 6.75% on every dollar I spend. I do not see the state sales taxes going away. Those are in addition to what this so called FAIR TAX would be.

I see nothing "FAIR" about it. It drives my costs up to purchase things.

The truth is that what should really happen is that Trumps tax plan was a GOOD start. It simply needs additional refining and in my opinion some tax reductions in brackets, especially tghose who are making household income less than 100 grand a year..

As a former manufacturer, I can assure you that the companies are NOT going to make any less money and if you think prices are going to come down, I have a few bridges that cross the Ohio river for sale....

That is pie in the sky dreaming. What drives down consumer prices is COMPETITION. Corporations are in business to churn out profits and next years profit should be more than the curent year to keep year over year reports and investors happy. One cannot keep prices suppressed and increase the profit year over year.

Whiole I admire the attempt to come up with what is "deemed" FAIR by Congress Critters who recdeieve a very healthy pension plan for no other reason than being elected, ANY congress critter never saw a chance for gettingm ore money from the opublic that they did not like... That is what reality has proven to be over the years and I am confident that you can check that out...

Looking at the information, I would be paying a lot more money than I am currently. I already pay TOO much and this opens up pandora's box especially when a bunch of free spenders are the majority of congress critters.
The name sounds great. The 23 percent is deplorable.

I would just as soon revise what the President STARTED and Congressional Rinos altered and simply reduce the feeral income tax burden on people.

I think we want the same thing. I believe that this plan is too idealistic and will be explouted and then we the people get stuck paying out MORE and have no recourse after it is done. And the GUBMINT is not in the habit of giving things back because they like to spend way too much....

This is just how I see it... Your view is certainly free to see it differently. No problem there. I would personally not be in favor of this as it is presented.

However, that is what America great. We can have differing viewpoints and discussion...

Thank you for this interesting topic..

micro... Thumbs Up


« POPE 5 Home | Email msg. | Reply to msg. | Post new | Board info. Previous | Home | Next