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26787 Re: DECOMPOSED--- Joe and crew...
   unfortunately for Joe, Lady Liberty never ever spoke a single word...... 		micro   POPE 5   04 Mar 2019
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   >>> Not only did Reagan free up the government from the supposed hara... 		Zimbler0   POPE 5   04 Mar 2019
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   Re: " I thought he sold insurance?"Hey, professional writers... 		kathy_s16   POPE 5   03 Mar 2019
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Re: DECOMPOSED--- Joe and crew...

By: Decomposed in POPE 5
Sun, 03 Mar 19 8:50 PM
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Angie:

Re: " I thought he sold insurance?"Hey, professional writers/historians still have to eat.

Re: "now that I know you're funny, you are aces with me."Perhaps you haven't noticed, but liberals have no sense of humor.

Re: "But, I do not remember specific postings of his. "Maybe this will restore your memory. Here's a typical "Joe" ditty:

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The death agonies of American liberalism!
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I have a retired pastor friend from what would be considered to be one of the more liberal wings of Christianity who once told me that the reason that the more charismatic and dogmatic churches were doing so much better than his more educated, and staid type of thoughtful theology was simply that they were more in tune with what their flocks needed and wanted than other churches were. I have never forgotten that conversation. As I look at the state of American liberalism as we plow more deeply into the furrows of the emerging twenty first century, I see a barren future ahead for those who care deeply for the misfortunate and underserved segments of our society. And, as I look at the new laws out in places like Arizona, I think of lady liberty and her admonition “give me your huddled masses.”
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Before the great depression of 1929 there really wasn’t much of a dominant liberal movement in this nation. There had been some progress made on social issues before that time as women had been given the right to vote and the progressive income tax had been enacted on a federal level. But minorities were still cast into a subservient role, and blacks in particular were mired into the social cast system that had emerged after the American civil war and, generally, they seemed to know their place in the scheme of things. There had been some progress on some social issues such as the sweat shops that existed in so many large American cities where woman and children worked long hours for little pay for the economic ruling class that gave them little chance for advancement beyond the days and months and years of toil that they gave for the simple right to exist and then to die a, hopefully for the wealthy class, quick and unnoticed death at the end of their useful economic life. The nineteen twenties rolled on and the nation fooled around with the great social experiment of its day--prohibition-- which saw more breaking of the law than had ever been attempted by collective humanity in one continuous period of time in our American history. The twenties also saw the beginnings and the fruition of the economic excesses known as “the roaring twenties” that culminated on that bleak, black Friday in October of 1929 when all of the chickens came home to roost in the beginning months of the last republican presidency this nation would see for a generation.
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Franklin D. Roosevelt said before he assumed the presidency in 1933 that if he did not succeed that he might be the last American president, the situation had become so dire in nature. And, succeed he did. But, there are those who will tell you that if it had not been for the second world war we might never have truly pulled out of our economic quagmire and become the economic powerhouse that we became for most of the latter part of the twentieth century.
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Liberalism makes some strange bedfellows and it, through the years since the Great Depression and Roosevelt’s ascendancy, had seen its rainbow coalition grow to include new immigrants, labor unions, feminists, alternative sexual preferences, and the ever present environmentalists who had fostered their own green movement since the late 1960’s. It has been said more than once that for the Democratic party to preside over this enormously big tent had, at times, cast the party and its many elements at cross purposes to one another. However, through the years the party had managed, through the art of compromise and the ability to look above and beyond the smaller cubicles that individual groups had occupied on upward to the greater good that the cause of progressivism and advancement of mankind had held out as the reward that that rainbow that over arched the coalition had presented as the pot of gold at the end of that proverbial rainbow. Liberalism’s finest hours occurred during the nineteen fifties and throughout the decade of the nineteen sixties when, through social, economic, and legal actions, groups such as people of color were finally lifted from their inferior positions and given a place in the sun. The United States supreme court’s decision in Brown versus Board of education and the United States congress’s action in the Civil rights act of 1964 may have been the high points of liberalism in action on the national stage.
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As the twentieth century worn on, however, the ever present elements of traditionalism, economic suzerainty by the wealthy elite, and the concentration of wealth by those same elite who were smart, or crooked enough to accumulate it had begun to take its toll on the liberalism of our day. Perhaps the poster boy for that movement was one Ronald Wilson Reagan, the B actor turned politician from Illinois by way of California who had started out a died in the wool Roosevelt democrat, but, who had “seen the light” of Barry Goldwater’s brand of conservatism during the 1960’s and had come riding out of the west to rescue the country from the apparent bankruptcy that had befallen it under the last years of the classic, deep southern liberalism expressed by one James Earl Carter of Georgia. The title of Jimmy Carter’s quest for the presidency was best expressed by the book entitled “Marathon” and, outside of some progress in the middle east, the Georgia peanut farmer with the brother who had a beer named after him did little but fall victim to his own excessive management style that included even supervising the times that white house staffers could use the mansions tennis courts. While Carter managed his staff‘s volleys and serves, he could not supervise the conclusion that the world was changing around him, particularly in the middle east where his earlier triumphs between Israel and Egypt had taken place.
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Ronald Reagan took the white house in an historic landslide and American liberalism, from that point forward, began to enter its long and decidedly chaotic death throes.
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The underpinnings of American liberalism have always included action by the central government of these United States and Ronald Reagan began to systematically dismantle the central government that the liberals had depended upon to advance their agendas. Not only did Reagan free up the government from the supposed harassing of the enterprising class, as he liked to call them, he also began to accelerate the spending of the “seed corn” as one writer has called it that the liberal tradition had used to finance its agendas through the decades since Roosevelt had come to power. Social security had been Franklin Roosevelt’s greatest achievement and both the conservatives and the liberals had been spending the reserves set aside to finance it through the generations to help balance the budgets that were almost perpetually in the red from the mid sixties forward. In this way, the liberals ensconced in the central government began to spend their way toward potential bankruptcy. There was a time during the late 1990’s when surpluses began to be accumulated and the debt began to be paid down but the stolen election of the year 2000 set the nation careening on a course of destruction that might include liberalism and everything else that mattered to thinking people across all stripes of the political persuasion.
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If Jimmy Carter had been the death knell to liberalism, George W. Bush effectively placed it in its grave with his virtual dictatorship over the nation that lasted an incredible eight years and accumulated over five trillion dollars of additional debt. The seed corn had been effectively eaten up! If that had not been enough, the accumulating lack of regulation that had skyrocketed in the second Bush presidency finally took its toll as the year of 2008 wore along and the nation and the world saw the fruits of its neglect of the oversight of its government fall from the trees of its economic salvation onto a ground now barren of any way to contain the economic avalanche that had begun so many years before under Ronald Reagan. And, the main casualty of that rockslide has become the impending death of liberalism as a progressive way of life in the United States of America. America has always had an ignorant and stubborn streak about her and it has manifest itself now in the increasingly new conservatism of so many who are suddenly so shocked by the dual election of a black president of the United States and the accumulation of a historic debt, the like of which we have never seen before. It matters not to these people how that debt was arrived at. It only matters to them that it is here and that it must be dealt with. The fact that there is a large dose of anti intellectualism and outright racism and bigotry associated with it all will mean nothing if the majority of Americans who go to the polls in the next two elections, 2010 and 2012, choose some of the people that they are being presented with as choices on the ballots across the various states. If liberalism kept some of our more unseemly excesses in check in the zoo of history, the neoconservativism emerging at this time has released them from their cages to roam the countryside in search of prey to devour. If liberalism once abolished prayer in schools, it may also have destroyed the one thing that might have saved its own mortal soul. The forces now allied against it include those offended by the lack of school prayer and the supreme courts decision in the Roe versus Wade decision of 1973.
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The death throes of liberal thinking, when they finally end with its passage from the scene as a major element of our society and its government, will result in things such as are what are starting to happen in the state of Arizona as we write this piece. There will be the rule of the new laws and there will be almost dictatorial rulers appointed to carry them out. And, behind it all will stand a congress and a supreme court majority, all appointed by Republican presidents who ran up eighty percent of the debt that ate up the seed corn, who will see, for a generation or more to come that no dominance by the prior liberal tradition will be allowed to sprout, much less flourish from the ugly ground that has been created from all that they did to lead to its destruction. And, those who are old, infirm, disadvantaged, disenfranchised,--the huddled masses that lady liberty took in-- and all of the other members of that once proud coalition will simply see the government and much of the society of this nation simply cross the road away from their suffering and walk on by as they struggle in their own death throes.
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And, that is how progress is destroyed and how idealism and democracies die!
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IOVHO,
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Regards,

Joe

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