And being in a 5th wheel I have a fresh water tank 12 volt pump system, solar panels. Dont get much sun here in the winters but......I can take showers without any power to the unit. I just had to buy 2 more huge RV batteries, $300 chezzzz When the power went out this morning I had nothing. Went outside and the battery's were bone dry, 5 volts is all. One came back but the other was shorting the system out. I got new ones that are much better then what was in here.

Realist - Everybody in America is soft, and hates conflict. The cure for this, both in politics and social life, is the same -- hardihood. Give them raw truth.