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Re: Question for you single folks.... 

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Yes, I'm sure. Give our enemies an inch and they'll take a mile. And as even UBL said, the strong horse wins, they want to go with a winner. Cases in point:

Would Russia have invaded Ukraine if we had a strong military and Islamo-fascist Obama was not President? Would Iran be actively taking over country after country in the Middle East? Why do you think it's in our national security interests to let all this happen? If Europe was nationalist instead of Socialist, would the Islamists be walking all over them and taking them over from within? How long do you think the Scandinavian rape capitals of the world will remain on top of the Freedom House freedom list? Do you really think our nukes are going to protect us from the enemy within and the red-green axis?

China is starting to edge us out in high-tech, since the Clintons so graciously handed over all of our military secrets to them. If we don't maintain our strategic edge, we're sunk. I watched on tv as the Chinese president told Bush why don't you take your hemisphere and we'll take ours. How long do you think we'd last alone? Have you heard of BDS? What would you do when it's used against us by an Islamist or Communist Europe and Asia (I would bet on the Islamists to win that contest). What happens when China becomes self-sufficient and doesn't need us as a customer any longer? Does that require us to proactively seek markets over there? Do we need a strong military to do so?

I presume you want Europe to defend themselves and not rely on US? That's a laugh. Ain't happening, they can't even keep the peace at home and are sinking fast due to socialism.

China's already shot down satellites. And Russia finished new underground nuclear C&C facilities and is actively drilling for a nuclear attack on us. Of course they and the Saudis think our oil production's an existential threat to them. So are they setting the fires that zero'd in on our storage facility in the mid-West and Canada's oil sands, per al Qaeda's call to do so? Just a few examples. Meanwhile the economic warfare continues from Russia/China who are attacking the dollar and the Islamists trying to draw us into warfare.

Then, Iran's surrounding Israel with missiles they intend to shoot 1,000/day and now they're more precise in their targeting. What kind of missile defense will protect against 1,000/day? Take out Israel, we lose eyes and advanced R&D.

Don't forget, it was when we left Islamists to their own devices after we *helped* them boot Russia out of Afghanistan that we got 9/11. They use infidels, then go after them, since their goal is domination, global caliphate. So beware every one of them and remember many if not most attacks are done by second generation immigrants. There is no way to vet them. And the 9/11 perps were friends with the neighbors until they disappeared one day. So, your Muslim friends may be the nicest guys in the world, but you are clueless as to whether they are good guys or bad. Many stories of them turning on infidel friends and pressures on them are often great. And that could be a worstning situation since a bad element has been arriving since the beginning of the hijrah (immigration jihad).

We have to keep our technology and military edge and know what the 'competition' is up to. It needs to address both conventional and asymmetric warfare.

I attended an asymmetric warfare symposium with the military the end of last month. They spoke of threats and what needs to be done to get back in shape. Good news is we have amazing men in the military and they know what needs to be done. Obama took a severe toll. Did you see the report on the ship collisions? They could have been avoided, it was the reduction in training, which is, along with maintenance, the first to go when there are cutbacks.

My point is we have many challenges and active threats and enemies who view us as their #1 target. Now that I think of it, I'll show you something in a separate post on the threat to us that Obama left as a parting gift, re: ports. Slimy bast__d that he is.

sl

p. s., mt, I met a guy at that symposium who flew both the F-111 and F-14. He loved both.


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Re: Question for you single folks....
By: Decomposed
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Sat, 11 Nov 17 7:59 PM
Msg. 38374 of 47202

starlight: 

re: "But one thing's for sure, if we don't show our strength and we operate from a position of weakness, the country will be lost and our liberty and freedoms along with it."

Are you really sure, or are you just repeating what we have all been told countless times over the decades? I'm not sure that what you've written is true at all. After all, other countries don't spend anything close to what we do on their national "defense" (and I put that in quotes because we never actually DEFEND with it).

The last time I looked, the United States' defense spending was 80% of what the entire rest of the world spends. For a country that hasn't been invaded (militarily) in 200 years or been attacked, barring only 9/11, in 75 years, that seems just a tad excessive. Nobody else has the need to routinely "show their strength" like that. Why is it "for sure" that we have to?

I posit that we accept this as normal out of HABIT. We have nuclear weapons. NOBODY is going to actually threaten our country.

Nobody external, that is. Internally? Yes, I think so. We run a real risk of rotting from the core outward. I don't expect anyone here to disagree with that. You know - I doubt that even the Pfffarters would disagree.

As for "the country will be lost and our liberty and freedoms along with it," it has already happened. The United States isn't even close to being the 'Home of the free' anymore.

Below, I've posted a 2014 ranking of countries by freedom (I know it's hard to read. I obtained it here: http://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/freedom-world-2017?gclid=CjwKCAiA3JrQBRBtEiwAN7cEGuEX7Rw2fR6rC4HUk7h0MKLK2GqFoqgEZDrlkeA4lM12004RcFF8uRoCvcEQAvD_BwE . Do you know who's #1? Finland. Followed by Norway, Sweden and Canada. Well, the U.S. must be close to Canada, right? Wrong. Canada is #4 while the United States, bastion of all that is good and just in the world, is 28th. Behind England. Behind France. Behind SPAIN, for cryin' out loud.

Now, these countries - which I would argue are all better than the United States where "liberties and freedoms" are concerned - all have their problems. But NONE of them spends anywhere near as much time and money proving to the rest of the world how big and bad they are. Only the United States, the 28th freest country on Earth, thinks that that's the secret to the good life.

Oh, and by the way, even though killing people has made Americans far and away the most arrogant people on earth, we aren't going to be able to continue behaving this way for much longer. We don't have the money for it. That's the cold reality. 


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