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Re: Did you know that before Obamacare the Insurance companies made $6 billion a year and after Obamacare $16 billion per year?

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Interesting - and short circuits the 'research' i was a doin - aimed at debunking the claim we always hear ... "The Insurance Companies are losing money 'on hussein.Øcare' ".

It MAY be a true statement that they 'lose' money on the 'assigned risk pools' - but, I seriously doubt it when one looks at the government subsidies - what is probably closer to the truth is that ROR is not as high as they would like it to be.

Bottom line - when one looks at ALL the new 'health care insurance policies', including the assigned risk pools -

"hussein.Ø-care" HAS BEEN EXTREMELY PROFITABLE TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES."

I could (and probably should, but won't) post images of the stock charts with 'max time extent' - for the major publicly traded health insurance companies. Here is a list of four of them Aetna, Anthem, Blue Cross of Virginia, Humana, Cigna (AET AFL ANTM CI HUM ... more at http://investsnips.com/list-of-publicly-traded-companies-that-provide-health-care-plans/

YOWZERS, shoulda, woulda, coulda made a REAL KILLING by investing in those back in 2008 when the law was first passed.

From Jul 2007 to now: http
://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chfdeh=0&chdet=1500580800000&chddm=1043579&chls=IntervalBasedLine&cmpto=NYSE:ANTM;NYSE:CI;NYSE:HUM;NYSE:UNH&cmptdms=0;0;0;0&q=NYSE:AET&ntsp=1&ei=QehwWdrcHYexjAHBw6XYDg

From Dec 2008 to now: http://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1&chdv=1&chvs=maximized&chdeh=0&chfdeh=0&chdet=1500580800000&chddm=854335&chls=IntervalBasedLine&cmpto=NYSE:ANTM;NYSE:CI;NYSE:HUM;NYSE:UNH&cmptdms=0;0;0;0&q=NYSE:AET&ntsp=1&ei=s-pwWbGcG4u_jAH97Yz4Bw

Dated article from 2011 - but on target: http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/05/10696/blue-cross-blue-shield-getting-richer-corporate-insurers

Micro - I will differ from your conclusion about 'write custom plans to save costs'.

The unholy trinity big gov, big biz, and big money is nowhere more apparent than in the 'health care arena'. The Big Insurance companies have NO INTEREST IN REPEALING O-CARE - THEY HAVE MADE, AND CONTINUE TO MAKE INCREDIBLE PROFITS from this abominable alliance.

Mandated Coverage - WHAT A BOON - and they will punish you with unreasonable prices for 'trimmed down' policies in order to maintain those profits. It is like having mandatory 'comp and collision' auto insurance being mandated instead of simple liability mandate. Even in simple liability - one sees the 'punish' aspect of exorbitant prices if one buys this insurance withOUT accompanying 'comp and collision'.

THE HUGE PROFITS OF O-CARE are precisely why WE WILL SEE NO REPEAL- those reps and sens have been bought and paid for.




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Did you know that before Obamacare the Insurance companies made $6 billion a year and after Obamacare $16 billion per year?
By: micro
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Thu, 20 Jul 17 5:25 PM
Msg. 29518 of 47202

http://investmentwatchblog.com/did-you-know-that-before-obamacare-the-insurance-companies-made-6-billion-a-year-and-after-obamacare-16-billion-per-year/

Hard to argue with financial data...
Not that I agree with raping people on premiums or things like that, but it shows that when free enterprise and capitalism is permitted to work, companies can then prosper.

Another way of looking at this is that while knowing they can make profits that are frankly, large, it also shows that they could focus on offering medical plans to individuals that offer benefits that individual families or individuals actually need for themselves, but one size does not fit all.

It is pretty evident that at my wife's age she is not going to need maternity care. WE do not drink alcohol. We will not be needing benefits for recovery from that stuff as an addiction.
I paid for my own children's births and medical care as they grew up. I do not believe I need to pay for someone else's....

SO let's allow those companies to be able to write individual policies with benefits that make sense for the people who are going to purchase them.

The numbers will take care of themselves....


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