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Thanks, Zim. Had caught the shoot-down on Fox when it first came out - but not the update from 'where no one has gone before' (aka c crime network). Wish they had stated from how far away the AIM was fired - apparently stuff like that is more closely guarded.

As they said - rare. What neither categorized it as was as a 'dogfight'.

On an earlier post, it was the Korean War (not Vietnam) where the Armed Forces 're-evaluated' their air-to-air capabilities ... because their loss ratio went WAY up.
There never was much (if any) air-to-air in 'Nam - a lot of surface-to-air, and vice versa. We lost more than a few to SAM missiles in Nam.




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More details of Syria shootdown
By: Zimbler0
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Sun, 02 Jul 17 12:46 AM
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New details on US shoot down of Syrian jet

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/21/politics/us-syria-russia-dogfight/index.html

CNN has learned new details of Sunday's rare air-to-air encounter between a Syrian Su-22 fighter and two US Navy F/A-18E Super Hornets in the skies over Syria, the first time a US warplane has downed a manned aircraft since 1999.

The incident took place after a series of clashes between pro-regime troops and the US-backed anti-ISIS group, the Syrian Democratic Forces, near the SDF-held town of Ja'Din, just south of Tabqah, Syria.

According to the Pentagon, the regime soldiers, equipped with tanks, artillery and technical vehicles, were advancing on the SDF position, forcing the coalition to use the de-confliction hotline with the Russians in attempt to turn the regime troops back.

When that proved unsuccessful, coalition aircraft performed "strafing runs" near the regime positions, which halted their advance.

Following that incident, coalition aircraft observed the Cold War-era Su-22 fighter fly over the SDF positions.

"They saw the Su-22 approaching," Navy Capt. Jeff Davis,a Pentagon spokesman, told reporters Tuesday. "It again had dirty wings; it was carrying ordinance. They did everything they could to try to warn it away. They did a head-butt maneuver, they launched flares, but ultimately the Su-22 went into a dive and it was observed dropping munitions and was subsequently shot down,"

"Dirty wings" is a military term used to describe a plane carrying armaments. In "a head-butt maneuver, the planes fly just in advance of another to create heavy wake and get its attention," Davis explained.

Immediately after the Syrian Su-22 fighter jet dropped its bombs, two American F/A-18E Super Hornets, flying from the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush, engaged, firing a AIM-9 Sidewinder -- a short-range air-to-air missile -- at the Syrian plane from about half a mile away, two US officials told CNN.

But the Syrian jet deployed defensive flares, causing the US missile to miss its target. The US pilot proceeded to fire off a second missile, an AIM 120 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile, which hit its intended target, downing the Syrian warplane and forcing its pilot to eject, the officials added.

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