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Re: When it comes to Military Aircraft 

By: Zimbler0 in POPE IV | Recommend this post (5)
Sat, 01 Jul 17 11:58 PM | 98 view(s)
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Lkorrow> Best case, 14 seconds and its ammo's gone? Why bother?


Dear Linda,
Much of the time in a dogfight is spent maneuvering.
Trying to get the plane in the right position to
kill the enemy. The pilot knows he only has some
fourteen seconds of cannon fire, he will wait till he
has the enemy 'in his sights' and then tear him up with
a short burst.

The big thing with the F-22 and the F-35 is stealth.
From fifty to a hundred miles away they are practically
invisible. They don't show up on the enemy's radar, and
at fifty miles they can't see them either. Till our
guys cut loose with the missiles. Then the enemy
knows they are out there and have some idea of where they
were. (When they launched the missiles.)

After that the enemy will be trying to close with our guys so
they can see our birds and engage visually. Dogfighting.

I don't know if the F35 is a good fighter jet or not.
I'd like to wait till a bunch of them have been through
Top gun fighter air combat school a few times and then see what they got.

Zim.




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Re: When it comes to Military Aircraft
By: lkorrow in POPE IV
Sat, 01 Jul 17 10:50 AM 		Msg. 28166 of 47202

Zim,

I'm unclear on it. Your article says:

"For the F-35A, 180 rounds can be housed in the gun’s linkless ammunition handling system. For the F-35B and F-35C, they both rely on an external gun pod carrying the GAU-22. The gun pod can hold 220 rounds in a helical magazine that wraps around the gun’s barrels within the pod."

So, the F-35A can carry 180 rounds. And the F-35B and F-35C will carry 220 rounds in an external gun pod. The gun shoots 3000 rounds/minute. How long is this plane dog fighting? Best case, 14 seconds and its ammo's gone? Why bother?

Close range, I don't see it. They're relying on shooting down a plane a couple of miles away, it seems. Did they figure they would never be in a real dog fight again? Or do they have short range rockets on it for dogfights?

With Russians flying 5 feet from the wingtips of a us recon plane, how's the F-35 going to take out the Russian fighter and not our plane?

They seem to have made a decision that we don't need interceptors anymore. Was that a sound decision?

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