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Re: Hmmm ... Professor, have you heard about this? 

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PLEASE NOTE: The A&M President did NOT support Curry - so the article lied about that. Also, the original context of Prof. Curry's supposed statement that 'some whites must die' shows that is NOTa comment or position of Prof Curry- but is looking at HISTORICAL (recent history) statements and positions that have been taken- and should be (rightfully, imo) examined.

First: President Young's FULL STATEMENT on 10 May, 2017

From KBTX:

The following statement was released Wednesday evening from President Young:

May 10, 2017

I am writing you tonight with a message that may seem ill-timed given our wonderful graduation ceremonies taking place this week. At the same time, this is a message about Aggies and that for which we stand. As such, I cannot think of a more appropriate time in many ways to write to you in this regard.

As you may know, a podcast interview by one of our professors that took place approximately four and a half years ago resurfaced this week on social media, seen for the first time by many of us. The interview features disturbing comments about race and violence that stand in stark contrast to Aggie core values most notably those of respect, excellence, leadership and integrity values that we hold true toward all of humanity.

As we know, the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects the rights of others to offer their personal views, no matter how reprehensible those views may be. It also protects our right to freedom of speech which I am exercising now.

We stand for equality.

We stand against the advocacy of violence, hate, and killing.

We firmly commit to the success, not the destruction, of each other.

We wish no violence or harm even to those who espouse hateful views under the First Amendment, a sentiment that by its very nature is one that they would deny others.

Tonight, therefore, I write to you, our beloved Aggies. Our core values are very much intact, including those for which we stand, and in contrast to that for which we most assuredly do not. This is something that needs to be said here and now and lived in all of our days.

Sincerely,
Michael K. Young 


Second: Professor Curry's ACTUAL WORDS - in context
In a recently uncovered interview from 2012, titled "Dr. Tommy Curry on killing whites," Curry said many black people like Nat Turner and Robert F. Williams "thought about killing white people as self-defense" and this "tradition" is still very "relevant."

"When we have this conversation about violence, or killing white people, it has to be looked at in the context of historical turn," he says(prof curry). "And the fact that we've had no one address, like how relevant and how solidified this kind of tradition is, for black people saying look, in order to be equal, in order to be liberated, some white people may have to die."


Both of above from: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56730

Note that Prof Curry is absolutely correct in stating that this really is stuff that has been said, and should be looked at - HARD. We, on this board, have NOT ignored those kinds of statements, and we HAVE addressed them - and condemned them.
Well - have listened to his own words - "My argument is ..." - ergo, that IS the position that he holds. Asking 'what do you think of that' does NOT elevate it to the level of 'scholarly debate'.

My complaint with Support Aggies is that they are using clips, very short in length. PUT UP THE WHOLE RECORDING - not just a selected clip.

http://www.supportaggies.com/2017/05/new-video-prof-curry-destroy-society-white-people-dying-worked/

Another clip- VERY UNCONVINCING - due to the very limited and HIGHLY selective 'time span' of the clip.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/19/quick-read-this-before-news-breaks.html

VERDICT STILL OUT ... I believe this qualifies as non-news, and my original statements about biased reporting and selective quotes not telling the truth were and are very much in order.


VERDICT STILL OUT.




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Hmmm ... Professor, have you heard about this?
By: Beldin
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Sat, 20 May 17 12:49 AM
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Texas Prof Repeatedly Talks About Killing Whites In Classroom

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/19/texas-prof-repeatedly-talks-about-killing-whites-in-classroom/

Texas A&M University professor Tommy Curry's outrageous remarks about "white people dying" to further black equality have not been limited to five-year-old podcasts. The College Fix reports that Curry has repeatedly raised the issue in class and now an alumni organization is asking people to withhold all donations to the university until Curry either resigns or is fired.

Curry isn't denying the charges - just insisting that he's bring "scholarly analysis" to the issue, as he apparently believes he does in one recording where he tells his students that he likes to watch the news to see white people getting beaten up.

In other segments, the professor talks about taking violent revolution to the streets to "liberate" the country from its "colonial structure."

Recordings of Curry's lectures reveal that the professor has repeated his claims that "white people dying" is an effective way of advancing civil rights in American society - and more.

The unofficial alumni association, dubbed Support Aggies, is releasing the recordings and is also calling for the dismissal of university president Michael Young for suggesting that Curry is merely exercising his academic freedom when he discusses killing whites. They are distributing a petition to gain support for their demands that Curry and Young be terminated and that private financial support for the university be withheld until they are.

Curry admits that the recordings are authentic and that he does discuss the role of white death in black equality but that he does so with "scholarly analysis" and not as a hate monger advocating violence against white people.

Controversy has swirled around Curry since the 2012 podcast was referenced in an article in The American Conservative, where, after discussing black revenge against whites, Curry states: "look, in order to be equal, in order to be liberated, some white people have to die." ...



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