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Re: The things I like about this place . . .

By: micro in 6TH POPE | Recommend this post (0)
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ZIM

In your poist a the end you said

If one wants me to believe the government toppled the twin towers on 9-11 there two major factors that will have to be addressed. The first and most obvious – there is no doubt two jet-liners were flown into the world trade center on 9-11. Why couldn't the carnage inflicted have brought down the building? 

Would you believe it when Doctoral engineers tell you that the jet fuel fire was not the cause because there is not enough direct combustion nor heat to cause all the rest of the suporting structure underneath it to give way like it did???

The reason I ask is because you are convincced in your own mind that is the reason it gave way, a jet fuel fire.

There has always been lots of doubt about that by various neutral professionals but like everything else, the noise to suppress those who queston such things is simply not worth the effort of trying to shout over it and apparently reason and engineers who know don't count.

So, if you want to be entitled to your opinion and not get harassed over it, told you are a conspiracy theorist believer, like I basically was, and apaprently my lifetine of working on various imprtant things for the government and military with my education and knowledge not aeeming to matter at all, now ya know how it feels.

I was disrespected on this board big time by more than just yourself.

I STATED in my posts NUMEROUS TIMES that you all can certainly believe whatever you think is right, please allow me the same opportunity as you want and desire instead of trying to paint me as some kind of kook who doesn't have a clue what they heck I am speaking of or wanting to take a look at to read the research papers and evidence and decide for myself what I think..

Methinks forty plus years of higher level engineering work and continuing to do that today as a consultant to some fortune 500 companies pretty welll means that I do have some shred of competency especially in my chosen field of practice..

SO, if thisis your idea of letting it drop, please know that the backhanded slap was not overlooked.

I APOLOGIZED to you already THAT MEANS LET IT GO.

I noticed that you did not apologize either me or Nemo, for your insulting demeanor.

I generally don't respond like this but you are pushing the linmits of my patience.

AND NOW a word for those of you who think this is STAR WORTHY.

GET A LIFE.

If you revel in and think after trying to make things right and get past a tirade like this one which basically slams yet again a differing view, after claiming that HE wants to have his own viepoint without getting slammed , like he has done to me and has done it again, then that basically tells me that you are are also are INTOLERANT and haven't the honest intellect to allow someone else to see something differently than you do.

Honestly guys, the fire on the tower is a analytical job best left to the real doctoral structural engineers who KNOW what the hell they are talking about.

THOSE are tyhe opinions from over a year of daily research and application of standards and known data that I WANT to see.

IT IS OKAY IF YOU do not want to. PLEASE LET ME DESIRE to do so without your CONDESCENDING BS ATTITUDES because you choose to believe whatever comes out of George Bush's mouth or his suboordinates.

THANKS a million ZIM for NOT dropping it..

I do not appreciated the back handed bitch slap you just took.. SO if you want to continue lets do this.


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The things I like about this place . . .
By: Zimbler0
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Tue, 14 Sep 21 12:07 AM
Msg. 23885 of 52685

Why do I like it here? Well, we have a diverse group of people who will try and help each other out with knowledge and sometimes more. And I like to think this group is dedicated to finding the truth.

We do not ban folks just because they do not believe the same things. I like getting different perspectives on things. Maybe what I want to believe is not quite right. Maybe there is evidence that says something is different than I thought. With folks who look at things in different ways at least I can get exposed to other view-points.

Yes. I have espoused things that others thought was wrong. At least a couple of times somebody (usually Decomposed) shot me down . . . It hurts to think one was wrong . . . But if one is honest one will at least listen to the opposing viewpoint, ponder the meanings of things . . . and, if necessary, change ones viewpoint. Or dig up more evidence and try to change the others viewpoint.

But the Truth is the single most important thing.

What I don't like about Pffffft? With them it is their way or the highway. No dissenting opinions will be tolerated. No discussions seeking the truth occur in there. Worse, from what I see most of the time they are just plain wrong.

And now. We have Micro peeved because some of us refuse to believe his cherished belief that the government toppled the twin towers on 9-11. And Nemo is peeved because he found out that some of us believe his 'gospel truth' sites are fountains of misinformation.

With the exception of doing the cyber-space equivalent of pooping on the pool table this forum allows most anything and every viewpoint to be expressed. And I see that as a good thing.

When something is posted a body has three options. One can simply ignore it and go on. (Which I frequently do with what Nemo posts – usually I read the headline, decide it doesn't interest or intrigue me, and move on.) One can agree with it – and say so. Or even do a search for supporting evidence. (Which I have also done on something Nemo posted at least twice.) Or one can decide to disagree, and post the why or how that causes one to disagree.

Disagreement opens the door for debate. I see it as an open invitation to voice my opinion. And I see it as an opportunity to learn other factors, facts, and eventually more of the Truth in the matter.

Truth is the most important thing.

Feel free to ignore what comes next.

If one wants me to believe the government toppled the twin towers on 9-11 there two major factors that will have to be addressed. The first and most obvious – there is no doubt two jet-liners were flown into the world trade center on 9-11. Why couldn't the carnage inflicted have brought down the building?

The second? Entertaining the notion that explosives were used to bring down the world trade center . . . Who planted the explosives? When? Any idea how many people it would have taken? Who and how was it paid for?

Zim.


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