...if the report ever becomes available, I will look at it as well. Until it does, there isn't much either of us can do but speculate about what might or might not be in it.
...I don't remember the exact process that was used for the creation of any of the pope boards. My first board was RANT and that is the one Bob shut down because of snapits. I could be wrong but that's the best I remember.
...at the time you requested to be removed as moderator I was trying to be accomodating in an asinine kinda way. Apologies extended.
...no two people think alike. If it helps ya to understand my thinking I am slightly ocd and passive resistant. Comes from early life. I will tell ya about it sometime.
...anyway, lets stay friends and work on Understanding and less about quibbling over semantics.
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...if the report ever becomes available, I will look at it as well. Until it does, there isn't much either of us can do but speculate about what might or might not be in it.
...I don't remember the exact process that was used for the creation of any of the pope boards. My first board was RANT and that is the one Bob shut down because of snapits. I could be wrong but that's the best I remember.
...at the time you requested to be removed as moderator I was trying to be accomodating in an asinine kinda way. Apologies extended.
...no two people think alike. If it helps ya to understand my thinking I am slightly ocd and passive resistant. Comes from early life. I will tell ya about it sometime.
...anyway, lets stay friends and work on Understanding and less about quibbling over semantics.
Semper FI.
Liberals are like a "Slinky". Totally useless, but somehow ya can't help but smile when you see one tumble down a flight of stairs!
the answer to your question about the board you can't remember you raised on Nemo's board.
After there was quite a bit of bad things said or spoken on the old Pope board when snapits was the owner our board got shut down by Bob for just cause... He was right..
We started to look at other places as alternative board to meet..
I wrote to Bob who was kind enough to listen and asked permission to start our board back up and so I created the next Pope board as owner and of course made you moderator.
Because in my way of thinking you were the right person to lead this new board because snapits was too stubborn or proud to admit Bob was right and he needed to control some of the language being used he never came back... SO I eventually wrote you about giving you the board ownership. You have restarted several of the last POPE boards since then on your own because of setting a goal of number of posts before starting another one.
But I rescued the pope board and got it back up again with Bob's kind allowance. Because of what had happened, itis why I used the phraseology I did about rules and language and playing nicely.
Hope this stirs up yer memory banks. That is how you became the board owner. And I stepped down to a moderator. It was the right thing to do and I don't regret it.. I did not then nor now have the time to be in charge of a board completely.
As to the issue of removing me as moderator, yes, I did say that. I wanted to see whether you would or whether you might possibly the assault and think about why would he say that?
The differenc between us is that I would have at least waited until the dust had settled and things were calmed down and even asked if that was really what you wanted and why. There had to be a reason.. And it had to be a very strong one.. Someting would be out of balance. Badly.
No matter.. As I said, it is the difference between how I have handled plenty of employee issues over decades and would have in the same position handled this also.
You may not think like that and that is okay.
You may not have any remote inkling to read lots of things I read or want to read and that is okay too.
Do I care whether anyone else sees something differently and want to explore a for real set of papersto see what they contain and as a longtime ME it would pique my interest keenly because I and many others have some questions and doubts the official story so I would be interested in seeing what these people came up with after their studies. IT MAY be absolutely nothing and it could have a few relevant new revelations that are factually backed with evidence that is irrefutable, and then agin, maybe not.. We won;t know until it is made public.
I DO NOT CARE whether you or anyone else want to believe about the tower collapse. I am interested in looking at the work of people in my field of professinal study to see what they mave that could possibly shed light on this or it may be a whole lot of nothing... Don't know but it does not hurt to look and see.
MY HOPE for writing this again for the fifth time is that you may see and understand my desire to see this stuff.
I was not asking you to..
For some reason that did not seem to be getting though..
So, I have explained it again and hope maybe you can see why I would have interest in what these fellow engineers actually have to present and is it factual or not.. Do we learn anything new from it? We do not know yet. Maybe and maybe not.. Its going to trial and hopefully it will get aired out and we will all see.
When you lose your sense of curiosity and desiring to learn some new things then life would become monotonous and very boring I would think.. I remain curious and like to explore lots of things and never stop learning.. I am only going thru this life one time so I want to make the most of it until He calls me home.
Please give a little thought to what I have written for you to read.
Here is what was forgotten the other day and night.
Free speech. Free thought. Are these things not your right as much as mine? WHY was I not allowed to even contemplate loking at alternative explanation ? If I want to is that my right ??? And if you choose to read Popular Mechanics is that not your freedom and right to do so?
Hope thatmaybe you may gain some insight to my side of things and why I reacted as I did.
The other day one of our team members shared a discovery she made during the remodeling of her kitchen. The counter top had been removed, and as she looked into this little 6"x8" drawer by the sink, she saw that it was completely stuffed - with like "stuff!" She realized that for 24 years she had been sticking things into that drawer: twist ties, rubber bands...you know, everything. There were some useful things in the back, but they were inaccessible because of all the "stuff." It had been a long time since the drawer had been opened very much; our friend just crammed things into it and occasionally pulled it open an inch or two to use something out of it. (I can relate to this.) But looking down on it all from above, she was surprised to see what was in there. Almost everything in that drawer could be thrown away, but it had been accumulating for years. And that drawer was much more useful now that it was emptied out.
I'm Ron Hutchcraft and I want to have A Word With You today about "Stuffed With Junk."
You've got to wonder what God sees when He looks down on the contents of our life. The "top" is always off as far as His view of us is concerned. He sees directly into our heart, our motives, our every thought. And all too often, our life and our heart are cluttered with "stuff"...things we've filled our life with that are simply unnecessary to Him, useless to Him; always limiting our usefulness to Him.
Some of us won't realize how useless a lot of our life has been until it's too late to do anything about it; we'll wait until the Judgment Seat of Christ.[color] Paul talks about it in 1 Corinthians 3, beginning with verse 11. It's our word for today from the Word of God. He says,[color=red] "No one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones..."
Wait a minute. That's filling our life with things that are going to last, that have eternal significance.
He goes on to say, "wood, hay, or straw" - wait a minute. Those are things that are just "stuff."
"...his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light...
the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames."[/b]
You get one life.
You can fill it with things that really matter or things that really don't. With things that will last forever, and often what this world stresses as being important is really just "stuff."
And what Jesus says is important,the world we live in thinks isn't much.
So when the Lord looks down inside your life, is it crammed with a lot of "stuff" that just doesn't mean much? A lot of time in front of a TV or computer screen, hours on the Internet, listening to music, talking on the phone, following sports, pouring yourself into causes and diversions that aren't going to matter much in eternity at all?
It's not that these things are necessarily bad. The problem is when "stuff" that should be peripheral become central in your life. That's when it's time to reevaluate your priorities.
It's time to see your life through God's eyes,
and clean out what's not useful - the trivial pursuits.
When you do, you become so much more useful to your Lord. And the more you fall in love with Him, the less you're going to be stuffing your hours, your days, your mind and your heart with "stuff." You'll be about what Jesus is about. You'll be as He said, "seeking first the Kingdom of God" (Matthew 6:33).
the answer to your question about the board you can't remember you raised on Nemo's board.
After there was quite a bit of bad things said or spoken on the old Pope board when snapits was the owner our board got shut down by Bob for just cause... He was right..
We started to look at other places as alternative board to meet..
I wrote to Bob who was kind enough to listen and asked permission to start our board back up and so I created the next Pope board as owner and of course made you moderator.
Because in my way of thinking you were the right person to lead this new board because snapits was too stubborn or proud to admit Bob was right and he needed to control some of the language being used he never came back... SO I eventually wrote you about giving you the board ownership. You have restarted several of the last POPE boards since then on your own because of setting a goal of number of posts before starting another one.
But I rescued the pope board and got it back up again with Bob's kind allowance. Because of what had happened, itis why I used the phraseology I did about rules and language and playing nicely.
Hope this stirs up yer memory banks. That is how you became the board owner. And I stepped down to a moderator. It was the right thing to do and I don't regret it.. I did not then nor now have the time to be in charge of a board completely.
As to the issue of removing me as moderator, yes, I did say that. I wanted to see whether you would or whether you might possibly the assault and think about why would he say that?
The differenc between us is that I would have at least waited until the dust had settled and things were calmed down and even asked if that was really what you wanted and why. There had to be a reason.. And it had to be a very strong one.. Someting would be out of balance. Badly.
No matter.. As I said, it is the difference between how I have handled plenty of employee issues over decades and would have in the same position handled this also.
You may not think like that and that is okay.
You may not have any remote inkling to read lots of things I read or want to read and that is okay too.
Do I care whether anyone else sees something differently and want to explore a for real set of papersto see what they contain and as a longtime ME it would pique my interest keenly because I and many others have some questions and doubts the official story so I would be interested in seeing what these people came up with after their studies. IT MAY be absolutely nothing and it could have a few relevant new revelations that are factually backed with evidence that is irrefutable, and then agin, maybe not.. We won;t know until it is made public.
I DO NOT CARE whether you or anyone else want to believe about the tower collapse. I am interested in looking at the work of people in my field of professinal study to see what they mave that could possibly shed light on this or it may be a whole lot of nothing... Don't know but it does not hurt to look and see.
MY HOPE for writing this again for the fifth time is that you may see and understand my desire to see this stuff.
I was not asking you to..
For some reason that did not seem to be getting though..
So, I have explained it again and hope maybe you can see why I would have interest in what these fellow engineers actually have to present and is it factual or not.. Do we learn anything new from it? We do not know yet. Maybe and maybe not.. Its going to trial and hopefully it will get aired out and we will all see.
When you lose your sense of curiosity and desiring to learn some new things then life would become monotonous and very boring I would think.. I remain curious and like to explore lots of things and never stop learning.. I am only going thru this life one time so I want to make the most of it until He calls me home.
Please give a little thought to what I have written for you to read.
Here is what was forgotten the other day and night.
Free speech. Free thought. Are these things not your right as much as mine? WHY was I not allowed to even contemplate loking at alternative explanation ? If I want to is that my right ??? And if you choose to read Popular Mechanics is that not your freedom and right to do so?
Hope thatmaybe you may gain some insight to my side of things and why I reacted as I did.
Much of my life I've been interested in following politics. But even I'm sick of politics right now! And you know what? Maybe you've OD'd on it. You know, all those pundits on the news. You know, they start to sound like indistinct blather when adults speak out on a Charlie Brown special. You know?
Oh, and the signs during an election! I never could wait till they come down and I can see my neighbor's house again. Oh, and the joy to think, "I can turn on my TV and there will not be one political commercial, showing your opponent as Frankenstein or Bride of Frankenstein."
But sadly, America's a very fractured nation politically. You know, after an election some people are all excited because their candidate won, and some are saying, "Boy, the end of everything must be close because my candidate lost. The other guy won."
You know, after waking up and hearing election results in America, sometimes I think of all the views that I'd heard on TV describing how they see America.
And you know what? That's the time I ask God to help me see my town, my country, my world through His eyes. "What do You see, Lord?"
And He said,
"Ron, there are only two categories that really matter. When you look at people, see them as being on one of two lists." And it wasn't Republican or Democrat or Independent.
No, I remembered something I read about the days after the Titanic sank. White Star Lines, the owners of the Titanic, set up a room in Liverpool, England, where people could wait to learn the fate of a passenger that they loved.
Occasionally, a company official would come in and add a name to one of two lists, posted on a large board. The lists simply read: "Known to be saved" ... "Known to be lost."
Everyone you love - everyone in your personal world - everyone hearing or reading this is on one of two lists. They're described in our word for today from the Word of God in 1 John 5:11-12. It says,
"God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He that has the Son has life; He that does not have the Son of God does not have life."
Known to be saved...Known to be lost.
It shouldn't be what political list or religious list a person's on that defines my relationship with them - it should be which of God's lists they're on. When we get to heaven, there won't be any "Republicans," or "Democrats," or "progressives," or "conservatives." No "Baptists," no "Methodists," or "Roman Catholics." God sees people in terms of their eternal destination, and it defines His relationship with us.
We were all in one doomed category - sinners; people who have marginalized our Creator rather than enthroning Him. Who have defied His ways and done what we wanted to do, and cut off from Him because He's sinless and we're full of sin.
So heaven or hell all comes down to what I do with Jesus. Whether I leave Him outside my life or put all my trust in Him as my only hope for rescue. "You have the Son, you have life," the Bible said. "You don't have the Son, you don't have life" (1 John 5:12).
[color=blue]Today if you could see God's lists, you'd be on the "Known to be lost" list, huh?
But today you could change lists. Because Jesus stands ready to erase the sin of your life from God's book, forgive every one of those sins, and give you eternal life that you could never deserve, because He gave His life for you.
Let today be the day you say, "Jesus, I'm Yours."
my hope and prayer is that everyone who reads what Pastor Hutchcraft has written will accept Jesus Christ as Their Savior beofre itis to late. The BIble says that Behold TODAY is the day of salvation. Not tomorrow or day after. TODAY. You do not know when HE is coming to take us home. Do not be late.. Take care of your eternity today while there is still time.. Time is running out swiftly.... Jesus is COMING SOON. Be saved today !
Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
Believers, do not be deceived or led astray with children of darkness. Be strong in the faith and trust the ONE who is spoken of in scripture and have faith untiil the end..
Be anovercomer and place your trust in the ONE who has already overcome the world... Jesus Christ, the Blessed SON of the living GOD...
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
The WORDS of GOD too unbelievers are difficult to understand what is being said because they do not possess the Holy Spirit who illuminates theheart and mind of belieevrs to give them understanding of the Holy Scriptures so consequently, it is impossible for Christ rejectors to comprehend the very words which HE and meanings of these prophecetic passages.. They are stil at ENMITY (war) with GOD because they ghave not repented of their sins.
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
The LORD is patiently waiting on people to receive HIS salvation that HE PURCHASED with HIS OWN LIFE and BLOOD sacrifice on the Cross.
WHEN the very last person on earth that will trust HIM asks Jesus to save him, THAT is when the Church age will end and the rapture will begin and all these things shall come to pass.
They are so close to happening everyone who is NOT a believer needs to RUN to CHRIST today before it is eternally too late...
HE stands at the Heart's door and KNOCKS and if ANYONE will open that door and invite HIM to come in, HE will do so !!!! HE wants you to trust HIM for your salvation and eternal security with HIM forver in Heaven.. HE as made you a new HOME to live in and is waiting for you. COME beofre the Trumpet Sounds and it is too late...
be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
ANYTIME you see the word wherefore in a verse, look to see what is it THERE FOR.
KNOWING and seeing thatthese things SHALL come to pass as Peter described, what should our manner of life, our actions andour words and deeds be? We should be preparing to live with HIM for eternity knowing that our redemption draweth NIGH and is even at our doorsteps today !!!!
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
ALL that dwell with God thru eternity are made righteous by Jesus Christ and that is what will dwell in HIS Heaven for all eternity... NO SIN will enter into heaven. Just worship and praising the LORD forever and gladness !
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
The children of GOD are to be looking forward to the COMING of THEIR LORD in the CLOUDS and spending the rest of eternity with Jesus Christ the LORD. IF GOD SAYS IT, you can depend on it happening just as HE said it would....
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved,
what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
The Apostle points out that BECAUSE GOD will do these things as Promised, WHAT manner of person should you be? HE is speaking of the NEED TO NOT WAIT, but RUN to the SAVIOR now and be saved, having yourself cleansed witht he blood of the LAmb and being made to appear as white as SNOW to GOD the Father because you are now wearing a robe of righteousness given you by Jesus HIMSELF with HIS OWN righteousness applied to YOU, which is acceptable to God the Father !!
There is an old Hymn which expresses this very thing:
JESUS PAID IT ALL, ALL to HIM I OWE. SIN had left a crimson stain (on me), HE WASHED IT white as snow (when he forgave me of my sins and placed HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS upon me)
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night;
in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
THESE things shall come to pass at the tribulation judgment time, the last 3 and a half years after the Saints of GOD are taken to heaven and all that remain on earth are unsaved, ungodly people.. GOD will POUR OUT HIS pent up wrath and vengeance upon all those who have rejected HIM and HIS SON Jesus Christ.. It will be a horrible time of destruction and death...
Even so, HE will reach out to anyone who will repent and come to JESUS for Salvation... The earth will be subject to terrible judgment from God... ALL Things shall be done AFTER the thousand year millenial reign. THAT is exactly when GOD will purge the earth with FIRE and clean it and start over again.. A NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH will be created.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness;
but is longsuffering to us-ward,
not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
GOD is PATIENT (longsuffering). HE will wait and patiently try to draw all men untio himself so that they might live eternally with HIM. HE desires us, HIS creation created to be similar to him, to spend eternity with HIM and to have fellowship with us. For HIS PLEASURE HE created us... He wants everyone to come to HIM for salvation thru HIS SON Jesus Christ and spend eternity with HIM !!
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