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Re: Nunes says he was on WH grounds day before revealing Trump surveillance info 

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (2)
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Ryan Liza gets it right.

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"Since last Monday’s hearing, Nunes, who was a member of the Trump transition team, has spoken repeatedly about the issue of incidental collection, the intelligence community’s term for the communications of innocent Americans that can be swept up when the N.S.A. or other agencies legally spy on a foreign target. The Russian Ambassador, a legal target of surveillance, was recorded talking to Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national-security adviser, who was a victim of incidental collection.

The White House and Nunes were clearly coördinating this strategy. A few days before the hearing, Trump seemed to offer a preview of it. In an interview on Fox News, the President said that he “will be submitting things” to Nunes’s committee “very soon,” and “perhaps speaking about this next week,” adding that “you’re going to find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks.”

Last Monday morning, shortly before the start of the hearing, a senior White House official told me, “You’ll see the setting of the predicate. That’s the thing to watch today.” He suggested that I read a piece in The Hill about incidental collection. The article posited that if “Trump or his advisors were speaking directly to foreign individuals who were the target of U.S. spying during the election campaign, and the intelligence agencies recorded Trump by accident, it’s plausible that those communications would have been collected and shared amongst intelligence agencies.”

The White House clearly indicated to me that it knew Nunes would highlight this issue. “It’s backdoor surveillance where it’s not just incidental, it’s systematic,” the White House official said. “Watch Nunes today.”

Sure enough, at last Monday’s hearing, Nunes asked in his opening statement, “Were the communications of officials or associates of any campaign subject to any kind of improper surveillance?” He continued, “The Intelligence Community has extremely strict procedures for handling information pertaining to any U.S. citizens who are subject even to incidental surveillance, and this committee wants to insure all surveillance activities have followed all relevant laws, rules, and regulations.” Nunes made it clear that Trump’s wiretapping claim was false, but he seemed intent on offering the President a fig leaf for the explosive claim. “It’s still possible that other surveillance activities were used against President Trump and his associates,” he insisted. The overwhelming majority of questions from Republicans at the hearing revolved around this issue."

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-the-white-house-and-republicans-blew-up-the-house-russia-investigation?mbid=social_twitter

The intelligence committee's another diversion. The need for a diversion tells me there's a problem from which Trump is diverting the committee. At this point, I'm confident there's going to be collusion. The cover is going to be ripped off soon.




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Re: Nunes says he was on WH grounds day before revealing Trump surveillance info
By: Cactus Flower
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Tue, 28 Mar 17 12:06 AM
Msg. 21512 of 54959

here's what probably happened.

the white house was looking for cover for trump's tweets about obama directing wire tapping towards trump tower. everyone knows this isn't true.

1. so they stretched the definition of wire-tapping to incorporate all surveillance.

2. they found some undirected surveillance material which showed that trump's team were in contact with the russians and others. this may or may not provide the smoking gun evidence of collusion.

3. they are making the unsubstantiated claim that this material involved illegal unmasking. pure smoke. nunes has been inconsistent in his description, which tells you there's not much there.

4. they will soon demand that this material is destroyed as going beyond the remit of the intelligence services.

5. if it provides evidence of collusion, this action will destroy the evidence.

6. nunes was given brief access to the material and told to treat it as a proof of trump's claims. he is dumb enough to play along.

7. nunes will treat future committee discussions as secret on this matter so nothing gets out.

8. trump will not admit or apologise for the wire-tapping claim.

9. nunes committee will produce nothing of value.


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