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Re: Donald Trumps Education Secretary Pick Wants To Make Christianity A Bigger Part Of Schooling

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There are a bunch of different ways to define the beginning of life.

Some folks prefer sentience as the starting point. Without sentience (or your consciousness), there is no suffering. I think people measure sentience by the existence of certain brain features.

Clo talked about independent viability, which, as you point out, makes for a moving target.

My view is different from yous and clo's. I want to permit private decisions, but only well within the zone of sentience. But beyond that, instead of thinking about biology, I think in terms of how long it takes a responsible person to make a decision. Pregnancy tests mean the countdown clock for making a choice can begin very early. I think 13 weeks/3 months is long enough to decide what you want to do. So the first trimester is my line in the sand for personal choice.

Extensions for various special reasons, such as life of the mother, suffering of the foetus etc.


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Re: Donald Trumps Education Secretary Pick Wants To Make Christianity A Bigger Part Of Schooling
By: xcslewis
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Tue, 06 Dec 16 9:29 PM
Msg. 20376 of 54959

Thanks alea.

On a side note, I have six grandchildren. All are extremely healthy and thriving. They are the light of our lives. All six confronted their parents with issues during pregnancy.

Two were born long before their due date.

One was diagnosed during pregnancy with possible dwarfism and a host of other issues.

The father of the other three is a carrier of a serious genetic condition. The first two were traditionally conceived. My daughter's third pregnancy was through the use of in vitro fertilization.

The eggs were genetically tested and an egg was selected. The remaining non-selected eggs presented me, my wife, my daughter and son-in-law with a moral dilemma as fertilized eggs would be discarded. We came to a resolution that not implanting those eggs was the equivalent of not choosing to become pregnant by traditional efforts. My daughter and her husband did not plan on more than three children.

For me abortion is a serious moral issue. My position happens to be in accord with most Christians. There are difficult issues, there may be times when there are no perfect solutions, but for me human life is sacred and every effort must be made to protect human life.

Certainly women are more affected by the decision than men. Yes, they own their own bodies. Choosing to end a pregnancy or not choosing to end the pregnancy has emotional consequences for women. They have to deal with their decision for the rest of their lives. I know women that continue deal with the fact of having had abortions. They live with guilt. It is sad for them.

If the choice to end a pregnancy is unavailable I think there would be far fewer abortions. I think it would be better emotionally for the women involved not to have to make the choice.


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