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Re: Donald Trumps Education Secretary Pick Wants To Make Christianity A Bigger Part Of Schooling

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
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hi clo,

from an international perspective and as a result of seeing what can happen in a secular society, i see people believing in god via christianity as a better option than people believing in god via islam.

if that means putting up with a religion i don't believe in but that promotes mostly healthy values, versus one which brings awful politics and some ugly zealots with it, then i am for the former.

not an issue right now in the us. but you want to keep it that way. you don't want the same situation as france.


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Re: Donald Trumps Education Secretary Pick Wants To Make Christianity A Bigger Part Of Schooling
By: clo
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Sun, 04 Dec 16 4:18 AM
Msg. 20338 of 54959

Hi Cactus Flower,

"The virtues of sacrifice, humility, forgiveness, mercy and charity are important ingredients of Western civilisation, which should be taught to all children. Without some set of common understandings, a society fails."

I'm all for those being taught, without the umbrella of a religion.

Her family created Amway, & are VERY BIG donors to republicans.

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Several sources have commented on the promotion of Christian conservative ideology within the Amway organization.[72][82][83][84] Mother Jones magazine described the Amway distributor force as "heavily influenced by the company's dual themes of Christian morality and free enterprise" and operating "like a private political army".[72] In The Cult of Free Enterprise, author Stephen Butterfield's book about his experiences in the Yager group within Amway, wrote "[Amway] sells a marketing and motivational system, a cause, a way of life, in a fervid emotional atmosphere of rallies and political religious revivalism."[82] Philadelphia City Paper correspondent Maryam Henein stated that "The language used in motivational tools for Amway frequently echoes or directly quotes the Bible, with the unstated assumption of a shared Christian perspective."[83] These motivational tools are produced by some top distributors independent of Amway.[83] In his book, Butterfield states that he did not become aware that the tapes he was purchasing from Yager were not Amway Corporation tapes until months after he left the business and notes "It is questionable how much Amway can be held culpable for the cultist hoopla of the Yager rallies".[82]

Businessweek correspondents Bill Vlasic and Beth Regan characterized the founding families of Amway as "fervently conservative, fervently Christian, and hugely influential in the Republican Party", noting that "Rich DeVos charged up the troops with a message of Christian beliefs and rock-ribbed conservatism."[74]

High-ranking Amway leaders such as Richard DeVos and Dexter Yager were owners and members of the board of Gospel Films, a producer of movies and books geared towards conservative Christians, as well as co-owners (along with Salem Communications) of a right-wing, Christian nonprofit called Gospel Communications International.[72][83][85][86][87] Yager, interviewed on 60 minutes in 1982, admitted that he promotes Christianity through his Amway group, but stated that this might not be the case in other Amway groups.[88][need quotation to verify]

Rolling Stone's Bob Moser reported that former Amway CEO and co-founder Richard DeVos is connected with the Dominionist political movement in the United States. Moser states that DeVos was a supporter of the late D. James Kennedy, giving more than $5 million to Kennedy's Coral Ridge Ministries.[89][90][91] DeVos was also a founding member and two-time president of the Council for National Policy, a right-wing Christian organization.[92]

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