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Re: Sessions and Flynn

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hi csl,

double standard? nope. tu quoque fallacy on your part. regardless of what you believe about the past, we are dealing with sessions in the present. precedent is no excuse for making a mistake (again, as you perceive it). if anything, we are meant to learn from history if that is what we believe it teaches. i didn't think what you thought about the two previous AGs. i think they were lawyers rather than senators to begin with. so i knew very little about them. hence, your double standard application doesn't apply.

republicans claim to read the constitution as it is written. democrats treat it as an interpretable, living document. the inflexible strict construction standard only applies to those who say people should adhere to it.

as i have said for a long time, the constitution contains the seeds of the united states' failure, along with various congressional rules. but i don't think the us needs to fail. a few changes and things would be improved.

uniquely, trump brings global catastrophe into play. and people who voted for him will be to blame for it.

sometimes i use capitals. sometimes i don't. i do this for entirely selfish reasons and not to make any point to others. this lower case response is coincidental to the last point you made in your post. i hadn't read it before starting to write this.




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Re: Sessions and Flynn
By: xcslewis
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Mon, 21 Nov 16 10:03 PM
Msg. 20251 of 54959

That's the past and if it concerned you, it was for you to mention at the time.

*Guilty. I rarely posted here.*

But if you accept the standard, which by applying it you accept, Sessions doesn't rise to it.
And he is the one under consideration at this time.

*It seems a double standard is applied. I was pointing that out and simply asking the question. My reply is not acceptance nor rejection, but it ain't half bad.*

We already know that he and the Republican Party don't observe the Constitution when it suits them not to. That much became obvious as a result of the refusal to consider the Garland nomination.

*A practice in which both parties have participated*

So I for one won't be surprised if this guy plays politics with the law.

*If that did not occur it would be a surprise*

Maybe these kinds of things are what you mean by the grown-ups taking over the government. For myself, I think these sorts of nominees are a reflection of the responsibility Trump voters bear for the destruction which is coming. Not overnight. But certainly.

*I agree the seeds for a calamity have been sown over the past decades and the can has been kicked down the road. I expect to see many very big problems on many fronts, problems that will need to be dealt with as they occur.*

And as surely I know that those who voted for him will disclaim their responsibility for what transpires.

*Given Trump's flaws, Trump seems to be proceeding in a businesslike fashion and seems to be seeking diverse perspectives in constructing the new administration. He is really an odd mix philosophically. I continue to have concerns about Trump and expect I always will. None of us know the future. I expect we will be in for a very rough ride. My preference easily remains Trump over Clinton.*

*For what its worth, I like it when you use capital letters and i don't like it when you don't use them, but I guess that's just me. Just thought I would mention it.*


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