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Re: Douglas Murray nails Press platitudes

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There is in the US ed circles (teaching degrees) a whole collection of stuff regarding mulitculuralism etc., and at one point I know of teaching that sought to replace the phrase "melting pot" with "tossed salad". When one considers things through the argument you present, perhaps folks need to ratchet it back and re-embrace a good melt.

The direction of the US in passing secular law waivers ("religious freedom") is certainly alarming, I just can't fathom how a Scalia could on the one hand support those sorts of efforts and on the other hand have his oft repeated fears of collapse into polygamy etc. "Religious freedom" is just a tool to enable paths around the supremacy secular law.


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Douglas Murray nails Press platitudes
By: Cactus Flower
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Thu, 24 Mar 16 9:42 PM
Msg. 18460 of 54959

"This is how it goes in Europe now. Everything barely worth saying will be said endlessly. And the only things that are worth saying won’t be said. What are those things? Among other things the fact that we are living with the consequences of an immigration and ‘integration’ fantasy which should have been abandoned years ago. Instead our governments have kept pretending that the weakening of Europe’s external borders and the erosion of its internal borders happening at the same time as one of the largest population replacement exercises in history could have no tangible effects on our continent’s future. They pretend that Britain will always be Britain, France will always be France, Sweden will always be Sweden and Belgium will always be Belgium.

But perhaps we do learn some things. Albeit silently. A decade ago, after every attack, the pundits used to point to places where mass immigration, integration and open borders were meant to have worked. After London people said ‘What can we learn from France’. After Paris they said ‘What can we learn from the Swedish model.’ Nobody cites Sweden anymore. In fact nobody looks to anyone else’s model anymore. Because all of the ‘models’ failed. So here we are – stuck with a problem our politicians have given us and to which they have no answers. Perhaps all this pointless chatter is just what people do to distract themselves before they have to face up to that fact."

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a-terrorist-attack-has-happened-in-europe-let-the-standard-response-begin/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Same goes for the US. People are determined to avoid the reality that it is difficult to mix cultures and not end up with issues. In particular cultures with God-given certainties are hard to work with.

In general, the US does okay with this. But how many of the issues the US has never-ending problems with are due to the issue of integration? Loads of them.

Iceland and Japan haven't got these problems.


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