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With due respect,

Your solution(s) wrt to employ 'religious tests' are flawed in many ways.
And to focus purely on them as the way to combat terrorism leaves gaping holes for other killers.

Lets face it, putting Our principals aside for a moment, WHICH terrorist is going to label themselves by their religion, IF that is the sole test to get you behind the gates?
There is NO way to be certain & since illegal immigrants cross the borders daily, so to can a religious zealot.
Besides, we here have many religious zealots born & raised here.

I think its dangerous to act as if your hair is on fire, after the recent lone wolf act of terrorism.

I think broadly labeling 'Muslims' & suggesting they should be banned, feeds ISIL propaganda.

We still suffer shame after the internment of Japanese Americans. What we did to them was HORRIBLE!

We should learn from mistakes of the past...




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Certainty of one's principles
By: Cactus Flower
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Fri, 11 Dec 15 5:36 PM
Msg. 17794 of 54959

is still the most dangerous thing.

It is true of the inviolable doctrine of open immigration free of religious tests. It is true of the certainties of faith.

We now know the female half of the recent San Bernadino terror gang slipped past American immigration checks without a hitch. If it was true for her, then similar models can work again.

What motivated her? Was it at least in part her religion?

Of course it was.

Who is thinking about how to stop people like her succeeding? A president who thinks Islam has nothing to do with it and therefore refuses to impose solutions that seek out the problem.

Who supports him? The people who think the absence of religious tests is more important than the lives of the potential victims of these religiously-motivated people. Who won't consider for a second any violation of their principles. Who cannot imagine for a second that malevolent people will take advantage of a person's kind-hearted naivete in a heartbeat.

It is peculiar how folks will say religion has caused many of the evils of the world ... and yet will not countenance a test of such a high risk belief system where it is obviously in a dangerous phase.

Even if the religious test isn't "Islam", it ought to be Islamism. Or you permit the fundamentalist Moslem swamp to come to America. And all the nicey nice people will have the consequences on their hands.

American tradition, of course, is not as pure as it is represented. There have often been frameworks set around immigration, particularly during times of heightened risk.

This isn't to say that immigration is the only risk. But at least address it.


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