Msg. 17741 of 54959 (This msg. is a reply to
17740 by
Cactus Flower)
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another difficulty is that you cannot easily express this sort of opinion without risking being seen to side with the folks who want to whack a moslem.
don't like those people any more than the naive-happy crowd.
i hate being the person who can't find a tolerant model for mixing islam with western culture. but i came to the conclusion that it's kinda a zero sum game. it's either this kind of thing going on forever, or something has to give. in the west, in my view, it has to be islam that gives. we can't have an islam that claims to be victimised and responds in this kind of way. it has to conform to a secular social/political/legal model - as no doubt many moderate moslems do. but clearly continuity between the umma in surrey and the umma in raqqa and riyadh cannot stand. so we need discontinuity within islam in order to have peace. such schisms already exist within islam. now we need a similar schism between islam and weslam.
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