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Sat, 31 Oct 15 8:35 AM | 91 view(s)
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Hi CF. Of course bad things happen to most of us. We need safety nets for protection. We have many: workman's comp, unemployment ins, SSDI, long & short term disability ins, medicade and of course welfare et al that I mentioned. Then there is private insurance for just about anything. Some are lazy, some unluckly and some just got a bad gene or terrible parentage. Hope,incentive,desire and hard work can over come much for many. Yes "luck is where preparation meets opportunity," and for some opportunity doesn't show up quickly but it never will if they don't prepare. Too many choose not to prepare because they see dependency as acceptable. That should not be a life choice. There is way too much help out there for those who opt to take advantsge. I don't know the answer but can't believe for many, providing a life of dependency is either.




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Re: cont'd D&O
By: Cactus Flower
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Sat, 31 Oct 15 6:59 AM
Msg. 17493 of 54959

There's the anecdotal case. But show me the large number of dependent poor who actually wish to live that way. Where are the facts to support the right wing, anti-poor narrative?

I have no doubt some people are lazy. But many are desperate. Or desperately unlucky. Or sick. The countries with larger welfare states (eg in Scandinavia) also have the most prosperous economies and the version of the American Dream that functions (ie people changing income quintiles between generations). http://www.businessinsider.com.au/nordic-countries-are-living-out-the-american-dream-2015-10

The American system ain't generous. It's a myth that robust welfare is necessarily inefficient. http://www.oecd.org/els/soc/OECD2014-Social-Expenditure-Update-Nov2014-8pages.pdf


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