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Re: economically conservative, socially liberal

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Thu, 15 Oct 15 9:29 PM | 174 view(s)
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Oh I agree. The right wing folks are nutso in the US.

Neither capitalist nor socialist myself. If you start with capitalism you have to introduce social modifiers and if you start with socialism you have to introduce property rights. It's kinda obvious after a few centuries that the pure economic doctrines of left and right cause benefits and costs and you have to modify them to limit the costs of either approach.

So you can start with a socialist healthcare model and then you have to work out how to shorten queues and to get doctors to act like their patients are important. And you can have a capitalist healthcare model and you need to work out how to get insurers to include sick people in their schemes!

Basically, the two competing economic systems in their pure forms are obsolescent and we need to think pragmatically (while ignoring the idealists) in order to get good answers.

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Re: economically conservative, socially liberal
By: tkc in ALEA
Thu, 15 Oct 15 9:19 PM 		Msg. 17413 of 54959

Ok CF, I get all that. Flexibility is a given, that's why it's called budgeting. Attempt means not expecting perfect success. I'm w/ you, there are occasions when deficit spending is necessary & prudent. Is 15 years of deficit spending to support war necessary & prudent? Why not raise revenue thru a tempory "tax surcharge?" Guns or butter. Citizens will sacrifice to support war, we always have - except in this century. One thing for sure: a true/honest fiscal conservative does not lower revenue (taxes) and budget for deficits while demanding public services spending be reduced while at war. Then refusing to raise the debt ceiling unless their demands are met. Then settling for uniform cuts accross the board- including the military defense budget while at war. That's being a right wingnut, not a fiscal conservative. So, as Forest says, "That's all I got to say about that!"

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