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Re: We are a secular government, thank god! ;)) 

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And if you were as well read as you claim to be, you'd know that your statement…

"WHY then dummy, do you think that the Pledge of allegiance's reading says that this was ONE NATION UNDER GOD?"

…was full of crap. As originally written, the Pledge made NO reference whatsoever to God! It was only added in the 50's as part of some misguided attempt to make it easier to flush out the Communists that some people felt were infiltrating our society.

And as for the so-called religious fervor of our Founding Fathers, please keep in mind, that with the possible exception of the Adam's, most of the rest were skeptical of religion's involvement in society in general let alone government in particular, due in part to what they knew of how it had corrupted and led to misery within so many European nations. They wanted to found not only a nation where individuals were free to worship without restrictions from the government, but also where the government was free from the narrow-mindedness of religion. And while many people like yourself are always quick to point out the fact that the 1st Amendment assures the "free exercise of religion" you tend to forget that BEFORE it said that, it also imposes the non-establishment clause by specifically prohibiting "the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion".




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Re: We are a secular government, thank god! ;))
By: micro
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Sun, 28 Jun 15 6:10 PM
Msg. 13785 of 65535

Joe
perhaps you should put in a couple years worth of reading the accounts , and researching the beliefs and lives of those who were responsible for the founding this nation.

I have an entire library bookcase filled with that information in case you want to actually study something. It only took me ten years to study but I am convinced that you are far more widely read and knowledgeable.
You are one dumb ignoramous.... A Fake and phony.

It is obvious you know nothing of the lives of the ones who framed the arguments and considered for long periods of time how best to set up a form of government that would be a REPUBLIC because they did not trust the temptation to men and politicians to run roughshod over the people, just like today.

Let me know when you care to discuss the likes of Adams, Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Madison, Dr. Benjamin Rush, John Jay, John Hancock, Sam Adams, and even more.

They did not set uo the government to be alienated and totally aloof from the GUIDELINES of the FAITH AND BELIEF of the Puritans, the Quakers, or Baptists or Methodists that were here then.

They WANTED the elected officials to have those beliefs of holy living, not being LIARS and double tongued, and the most untrusted people on the planet.

They wrote that CONGRESS shall make no law that RESTRICTS RELIION, not that CONGRESS shall FLEE FROM those beliefs and not adhere to them.

WHY then dummy, do you think that the Pledge of allegiance's reading says that this was ONE NATION UNDER GOD? Was it because those people were anathema toward religious beliefs?

The founders DID NOT believe in separation of church and state and I defy you to demonstrate using the Constitution or ANYTHING ELSE.

You sir show your ignorance every time you make ludicrous , non-thinking, repeat after me mantra statements like that which have ZERO basis in reality or truth.

But then again, when did a a liberal ever think for themselves?

Hey Joe, how do you reconcile supporting abortion and murder and homosexuality with The BIBLE's stand n it and call yourself a Christian?

Seems like your viw and what the Scriptures state are polar opposites.

So, who is right, you or GOD'S WORD, if you even think the BIble is God's written and recorded and preserved Word.

I took my dog to Church one time.. Because she went into the building, does that make my dog a Christian Joe?

Just wondering where you get some of these seriously distorted and errant views from.

You give Jesus Christ a black eye every time you open your mouth....


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