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Re: Sunday ramblings-Who might Jesus have hung with today? 

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Sun, 28 Jun 15 6:46 PM | 57 view(s)
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Hey Joe,

do you think that Jesus was GOD?????

Do you think when the GOD said "I am the LORD: I change NOT" that he did not mean it?

So did he change his mind about homosexuality? I can show you a ton of passages in the New Testament speaking about all kinds of things specifically that NONE of thepeople that do those things will ever enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Are you simply a cherry picker of scripture????

Obviously you are trying to make the case for homosexuality being A-OKAY with Jesus Christ when in fact nothing could be farther from the truth.

Let's be clear about one thing. Jesus does not like ANY SIN. ALL SIN is ABOMINATION.

That is what the LAW taught. NOBODY could fulfill the law perfectly and sinlessly except Christ.

JESUS said that ALL must come to repentence. He also said HOMOSEXUALITY was an abomination.

DID the destruction of two cities for that express sin teach YOU anything Joe?

JESUS CHRIST is GOD the SON. He is GOD. Your stupid argument fails because you have just demoted JESUS as not being GOD because you think he did not publicly outcry the sin of homosexuality but only the Old Testament is where you find it?

So Jesus is not the GOD of the OLD Testament?

How did people become born again in the Old Testament Joe?

WHAT do you think the difference is between the two testaments?

Do things you find there have any bearing on us today?

GOD has not changed HIS MIND.
He is NOT wishy washy or double minded like men.
HIS WORD is TRUTH. (You know where to find that at Joe?)

HIS WORD is ABSOLUTE and FINAL also by the way.

HE HATES SIN, of any kind.

He LOVES the SINNER, but HATES THEIR SIN.

THAT IS WHY HE Left heaven and came here to shed HIS DIVINE BLOOD on a CROSS. (for without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins)

HE became the SACRIFICIAL LAMB to REDEEM any and all sinners who would simply by simple faith ACCEPT HIS payment for their sin and trust in HIM alone for their salvation.
Pretty simple. Faith even a little child can have and understand.

The GIFT is there for ANY AND ALL to ACCEPT.

HE SAID HE came to seek and save that which was lost. He said abour t peopole with wealth that is easier for a camel to go through the eye of needle than for a rich man to repent and be saved.

THAT is why he "hung" with the common people. WHY do you think HE was born a common person, a carpenter in a backwoods town that was not thought very much of?

He came for the people, HIS CREATION, ALL of them.

He came because of their SINS and IMMORALITY which is sin, and HE NAMED THEM WHAT THEY ARE and the APOSTLES have an entire chapter listing them as well.

Anytime Joe. Anytime.

You know so little and repeat things that you have heard which are false and wrong as can be and accuse others who are educated in the very topics and here you are spewing your venom to justify your position.

Being a BELIEVER in CHRIST Joe means believeing IN HIM, and OBEYING HIS WORD(S), ALL of them. Not SOME of them.

Was GOD just joking when he said THOU SHALT NOT KILL?

Did he really mean it? You think it might have been just a suggestion? Is the Ten Commandments releveant today or are you going to try to pretend that somewhere in the BIBLE GOD said I TAKE THEM ALL BACK and they no longer are valid????

Thoise are GUIDELINES and COMMANDS for HOLY living Joe.

Is GOD HOLY? IS CHRIST GOD? Does the word CHRISTIAN mean to be LIKE CHRIST?

You cannot serve both GOD and mammon Joe. It gets you every single time.

Yes, its not popular to take a stand for the Bible. I know it isn't because I go out and visit the homeless, the people in my community and tell them about the saving grace of Jesus Christ and HIS power to forgive and overcome sin.

Some of the seed falls on FERTILE SOIL and bears fruit. Most falls on stony and poor ground.

As JESUS said Joe, the road to HEAVEN IS NARROW, and FEW (in terms of ratio of people) there be that find it.

You can't claim to be a born again believer Joe and support SIN and murder and every other thing GOD expressly described and named in HIS WORD.

Sweet water and bitter do not both come out of the same fountain. You can't be doubleminded.

So which is it Joe?
You a pretender or are you ever going to stand up for CHRIST and for GOD and be unpopular, not seeking the pat on the back from these people here or any others.

My comments many times are not liked by most on the Pope board but unlike the Phillistines here, they aren;t busy trying to tear me down either. I have liberty to share the GOSPEL.

DIDN'T JESUS say at the end of Matthew to go ye therefore into ALL THE WORLD and preach the GOSPEL to every nation????

You have anything to say to old zz about his moronic comment about Buddhists to DGP as to whose problem it is?
Or, you want to continue to be in the hog pen?

ALL the WORLD includes INDIA and every other country.

I happen to belong to and have printed over 70 languages of the BIBLE to give out for free to peoples in various countries. We have over 20 dialects in Africa printed for them.

Jesus Christ was NOT silent on this ABOMINABLE lifestyle Joe. You are dead wrong as usual. AND HE does not approve of it either.

Either believe ALL the BIBLE Joe or simply say that you only want to believe PARTS of it and that YOU somehow are smarter than GOD and He did not really need to have this many books in it..

Like Laodicea, you are lukewarm. Do I need to remind you what GOD said about his CHURCH being LUKEWARM, and those that COMPRISE that Church which are lukewarm?

Some things for you to give some serious thought to Joe.

Jesus said you are either WITH ME or AGAINST ME.
WHICH is it for you Joe??

Time to declare......


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Sunday ramblings-Who might Jesus have hung with today?
By: joe-taylor in FFFT3
Sun, 28 Jun 15 3:49 PM 		Msg. 13784 of 65535

Who would Jesus have hung with today?


Many who have studied the Christian Bible and more particularly the New Testament are more than aware of the fact that Jesus Christ was a person of the common people far more than he ever was the elites of his time. Most of the elites of Jesus era were either very wealthy or very bound up in religion, or both.

Jesus was very contemptuous of both unbridled wealth and extreme belief in the over abundance of rules that populated the Jewish religion of his day. It has been said that Jesus came at the time that he did because the Jews had forgotten the purpose of their religion and had begun to worship rules and procedures instead of their God. Indeed, the Jewish religious authorities such as the pharisees had begun to follow Jesus around and had begun to roundly critcise him for doing things such as to heal people on the Sabbath, something a Jew in charge would never allow. There was probably not a more rule bound people on this earth than the Jews of the savior's time. There were rules to determine how many steps one could take on the Sabbath as well as what to allow a person to do outside of his home on that day. The dead could not be touched and go into the temple for so many days after it had occurred.

In point of fact, Jesus hung with so many outcasts of his time that it greatly disturbed the religious authorities of his age. He called a tax collector out of a tree to eat as his home as well as had a long conversation with an outcast woman who could only come to the common well for water at midday she was so excluded from her social group. The Samaritan's, a break off group from the Jews who featured a less pure form of intermarriage than the racial purity that the Jews preferred were so hated by them that Jews would travel great distances out of their way just to avoid walking in their territory. Many remember the story of the Good Samaritan who took care of an injured man after more than one Jewish citizen had gone to the other side of the road just to avoid having to confront the semi conscious man and his distress. Jesus used Samaritans more than once to illustrate just how hateful that his fellow Jews could be and how loving other people were. And, if Jesus featured Samaritans who married racially impure, how far away from other forms of marriage might he be?

As we write this piece, the United States Supreme Court has just handed down a decision that will allow gay and lesbian people to be legally married in all fifty states and it might be good to remark that Jesus Christ was completely silent on the subject of this type of alternate lifestyle throughout his ministry in and around Galilee before his crucifixion. Most of the statements surrounding homosexuality are found in the Old Testament and from the apostle Paul in the New Testament and for those who believe that the Christian Bible is a God inspired work we think that there is some significance in the fact that Jesus never spoke on the subject at all among the thousands of words that are recorded that he did speak. Jesus did cast out many demons from afflicted people but there is no apparent evidence that any were cast out of gay or lesbian souls. We remember well the story of the Christ casting a demon out that begged not to be destroyed and was therefore placed into two thousand pigs who subsequently ran into a lake and drowned themselves after which Jesus was asked to leave immediately.

But back to this question of who might Jesus hang with today? If he were here in person would he hang with the billionaires who control so much of the wealth of this world today? Not after saying that it would be easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. The eye of the needle was an entrance into Jerusalem that required camels to get down on their knees to get through. We also remember that the Christ told the rich young ruler that he must give away all that he had and take up his cross and follow him if he were to achieve eternal life, the worship of anything other than God, particularly material things, would exclude any soul who did so from following into Christ's kingdom.

It is best to remember that Jesus gave a new rule when he said that we were to love one another as he had loved us. And, as we remember what Jesus said from the cross when he asked his father to forgive them for they knew not what they did, an over abundance of love and forgiveness flowed from this man to so many that he encountered and knew.

Where would we find Jesus walking today? It would probably be among those who are downtrodden and overlooked by a society who has little time for them as it pursues its lust for more and more profits and more and more wealth. It might be with those who seek him but are made unwelcome in a church that does not feel that they belong. It would probably be among people of color who are again being marginalized by those who seek great political power and position by denying them their vote. And that is occurring in places who profess to know more about the Christ than anywhere else. And it might not be in places that preach Hell, fire and brimstone from their pulpits instead of love as they pursue more guilt laden materialism for their empire building churches. And it would surely be among those who have so little but are more than willing to share what they do have with anyone that they see in need.

We recently saw a sculpture of a homeless Jesus covered by a newspaper on a park bench in some nameless city and we are sure that those who seek his favor might very well look there as anyplace else. Jesus Christ was filled with love for his fellows and we can just seem him now sitting on a heating grate in some large metropolis as he joins those who are seeking warmth there from a cold winters night as some limousine drives past them unnoticed on the streets. And we remember how Jesus praised the widow who put in two mites among the crowds of wealthy Jews at the temple and how he praised her for giving all she had.


Regards,


Joe

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