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Obamacare squeaked by without bipartisan votes & destroyed many democratic politicians careers, they were voted out.

The Teaparty took root in congress, making it more difficult to govern & get anything done.

Republicans WANT TTP, they aren't working with Obama, they are working Obama.

He has always taken the dem's for granted. He's lucky Pelosi has been so loyal until now.

Democrats have the history of NAFTA & the knowledge of how many good jobs that cost Americans & Unions.

Pelosi can use this to bargain, get a big infrastructure bill passed, to create jobs here & raise the minimum wage.

Obama is a lame duck & he's swimming alone in his pond.




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Re: Obama's response to trade bills
By: Cactus Flower
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Mon, 15 Jun 15 5:58 PM
Msg. 16988 of 54959

i am confused by your post.

he passed obamacare with democratic support. this was a huge progressive triumph.

in hindsight, maybe sebelius wasn't a successful pick, but that doesn't mean howard dean would have been. regardless, obamacare is performing very well after initial hiccups.

obama has been accused of not working with republicans but in this case, his allies are all republican.

so i don't think you can maintain the point you are making. or at least, this isn't the best example of continuity of animosity.

but i think he has taken democratic support for granted and is acting like he is entitled to it in his treatment of these treaties' democratic opponents. he seems spoiled and petulant in this case. previously his problem has seemed to me to be being overly fastidious.

it sounds like democrats think these trade deals are valuable for incumbent merchants and do little for anyone else. that's a reasonable thing to question. obama has given democrats nothing to support.


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