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Re: Obama's response to trade bills

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Mon, 15 Jun 15 5:58 PM | 90 view(s)
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i am confused by your post.

he passed obamacare with democratic support. this was a huge progressive triumph.

in hindsight, maybe sebelius wasn't a successful pick, but that doesn't mean howard dean would have been. regardless, obamacare is performing very well after initial hiccups.

obama has been accused of not working with republicans but in this case, his allies are all republican.

so i don't think you can maintain the point you are making. or at least, this isn't the best example of continuity of animosity.

but i think he has taken democratic support for granted and is acting like he is entitled to it in his treatment of these treaties' democratic opponents. he seems spoiled and petulant in this case. previously his problem has seemed to me to be being overly fastidious.

it sounds like democrats think these trade deals are valuable for incumbent merchants and do little for anyone else. that's a reasonable thing to question. obama has given democrats nothing to support.


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Re: Obama's response to trade bills
By: clo in ALEA
Mon, 15 Jun 15 5:34 PM 		Msg. 16987 of 54959

Someone described his behavior much like a delinquent step-dad. Showing up with great expectations that his presence was all that was needed...
Tooooo little to late, Obama never took time to nurture relationships with HIS OWN party, let alone the other side.

I think Obama is a good person, but probably at the bottom of the list as a politician. He is a campaigner, NOT a leader once he gained power.

Look at the way he dealt with Obamacare, he should have asked Dr. Howard Dean to lead it, not Kathleen Sebelius. And apparently he didn't bother asking questions prior to the horrible roll out. Costing many democratic seats in the next election.

I didn't trust him once he went back on his word to accept public financing....

"If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."
- Barack Obama, fall 2007

"We've made the decision not to participate in the public financing system for the general election."

- Barack Obama, June 19, 2008

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