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Re: Prosecutor charges 6 Baltimore officers in Gray's death

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
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"If cops can't distinguish a switchblade from a pocket knife they should find another position."

Not so simple as you think, clo.

"The arrest report stated that the 25-year-old Gray was carrying "a spring-assisted, one hand-operated knife." A police task force also determined the knife was "spring-assisted," thereby violating city law, The Baltimore Sun reported.

In a motion filed Monday, one of Nero's attorneys, Marc Zayon, states the knife is illegal under both city and state law.

City law prohibits the sale, possession or carrying of "any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade," commonly called a switchblade. The state statue applies to a knife "having a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle.""

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/05/baltimore-cop-claims-freddie-gray-knife-illegal/26950303/

Maybe if the prosecutor cannot distinguish a legal and illegal knife they should find a new prosecutor!


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Re: Prosecutor charges 6 Baltimore officers in Gray's death
By: clo
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Sat, 02 May 15 3:33 AM
Msg. 16867 of 54959

Cactus Flower,

I think you missed the point I was trying to make.
Mr Gray did NOTHING to warrant them arresting him. The only thing he did was flee. They did not see the knife, since they were chasing him from behind on bikes.

If cops can't distinguish a switchblade from a pocket knife they should find another position.

I've also learned 'hog tying' a prisoner is illegal, he told them he had trouble breathing & needed an inhaler. They ignored this request.
Not only was he hog tied, he was put on a hard surface, on his stomach, unsecured in that van.

It’s been long-held for several years, hog-tying with restraints can lead to positional asphyxiation and liability for the police department. In Cruz v. City of Lararmie, 99-8045, 99-8049, 99-8050, 239 F.3d 1183 (10th Cir. 2001), part of the the case was as follows:

“Officers may not apply this technique when a person’s diminished capacity is apparent. The diminished capacity might result from severe intoxication, the influence of controlled substances, a discernible mental condition or any other condition, apparent to the officers at the time which would make the application of a hog-tie restraint likely to result in any significant risk to the individual’s health or well-being. A review of the known dangers of the hog-tie restrain supports this position.”

In Nelson v. County of Los Angeles, 113 Cal App 4th 783 (2003), in a Court of Appeal noted:

“The parents of an adult male who died of asphyxia while restrained by deputy sheriffs filed a wrongful death suit against the county. The adult male stood in the middle of a busy intersection and fired a loaded gun into the air and at passing motorists. The police responded by arresting the adult male and placed him in the back of the police car. The adult male started thrashing about, and the deputies pulled him out of the car, laid the still handcuffed adult male facedown on the round and executed a total appendage restraint procedure (TARP). By the time the deputies finished, the adult male was unconscious. The paramedics who came to the scene found he was no longer breathing and were unable to revive him.”

Read more at http://endthelie.com/2012/06/02/reporter-manhandled-and-apparently-hog-tied-by-police-at-bilderberg-2012/#yq2sZLQA2IYl2Rxs.99


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