« ALEA Home | Email msg. | Reply to msg. | Post new | Board info. Previous | Home | Next

Re: Prosecutor charges 6 Baltimore officers in Gray's death

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Sat, 02 May 15 9:10 AM | 72 view(s)
Boardmark this board | The Trust Matrix
Msg. 16868 of 54959
(This msg. is a reply to 16867 by clo)

Jump:
Jump to board:
Jump to msg. #

hi clo,

I get your point. But wrongful arrest isn't homicide. It is unremarkable.

The victim died in a vehicle driven by someone other than the arresting officers. His neck or back was apparently broken. The claim is his neck/back was broken in the vehicle. The person driving the vehicle, who didn't arrest the victim, is the one accused of homicide.

To me, it doesn't yet make any sense. But as the facts emerge maybe everything will become clear.

Something bad obviously happened. Hopefully they get to the bottom of it.


- - - - -
View Replies (1) »



» You can also:
- - - - -
The above is a reply to the following message:
Re: Prosecutor charges 6 Baltimore officers in Gray's death
By: clo
in ALEA
Sat, 02 May 15 3:33 AM
Msg. 16867 of 54959

Cactus Flower,

I think you missed the point I was trying to make.
Mr Gray did NOTHING to warrant them arresting him. The only thing he did was flee. They did not see the knife, since they were chasing him from behind on bikes.

If cops can't distinguish a switchblade from a pocket knife they should find another position.

I've also learned 'hog tying' a prisoner is illegal, he told them he had trouble breathing & needed an inhaler. They ignored this request.
Not only was he hog tied, he was put on a hard surface, on his stomach, unsecured in that van.

It’s been long-held for several years, hog-tying with restraints can lead to positional asphyxiation and liability for the police department. In Cruz v. City of Lararmie, 99-8045, 99-8049, 99-8050, 239 F.3d 1183 (10th Cir. 2001), part of the the case was as follows:

“Officers may not apply this technique when a person’s diminished capacity is apparent. The diminished capacity might result from severe intoxication, the influence of controlled substances, a discernible mental condition or any other condition, apparent to the officers at the time which would make the application of a hog-tie restraint likely to result in any significant risk to the individual’s health or well-being. A review of the known dangers of the hog-tie restrain supports this position.”

In Nelson v. County of Los Angeles, 113 Cal App 4th 783 (2003), in a Court of Appeal noted:

“The parents of an adult male who died of asphyxia while restrained by deputy sheriffs filed a wrongful death suit against the county. The adult male stood in the middle of a busy intersection and fired a loaded gun into the air and at passing motorists. The police responded by arresting the adult male and placed him in the back of the police car. The adult male started thrashing about, and the deputies pulled him out of the car, laid the still handcuffed adult male facedown on the round and executed a total appendage restraint procedure (TARP). By the time the deputies finished, the adult male was unconscious. The paramedics who came to the scene found he was no longer breathing and were unable to revive him.”

Read more at http://endthelie.com/2012/06/02/reporter-manhandled-and-apparently-hog-tied-by-police-at-bilderberg-2012/#yq2sZLQA2IYl2Rxs.99


« ALEA Home | Email msg. | Reply to msg. | Post new | Board info. Previous | Home | Next