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Re: is there any way to avoid a middle east megawar? 

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (1)
Mon, 30 Mar 15 8:54 PM | 118 view(s)
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Hi D&O,

I think the broad aim is to increase happiness and/or avoid harm for the most people possible.

If that can be done by some sort of popular mandate, that is great.

But your brother is right. The local culture and the social infrastructure may not bear the freight.

For myself, I am historically conservative in the way I imagine societies finding a constructive path forwards. Mostly it is going to be done internally and gradually based on existing methods.

Outside interference isn't going to work unless a society embraces wholesale change.

Saddam was awful. But was he worse than what is left behind by American intervention?

If only Bush had focused only on Afghanistan.

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Re: is there any way to avoid a middle east megawar?
By: Down And Out Man in ALEA
Mon, 30 Mar 15 8:42 PM 		Msg. 16800 of 54959 

or maybe such people as saddam are in fact the least bad option

I still recall, when we were very young men, my brother saying that apparently sometimes, in some places, despotic dictators are "necessary" to keep order and "civilization" intact.

I remember scratching my head thinking, "Huh? What could be worse than a dictator?"

Within a few years I understood that, sadly, he was apparently right. And maybe prescient.

D&O

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