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By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Sat, 19 Jul 14 10:35 PM | 22 view(s)
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no doma,

you brought it up using the usual tu quoque argument you often use. you are trying to say one cannot blame putin because other people also have done bad things.

but we are talking about putin in relation to this plane crash. he isn't cured by other folks' actions.

putin is guilty of arming and supporting the rebels in eastern ukraine and then denying it. the same rebels who just shot down a commercial airliner. they are his creatures even if he does not micromanage them.

consequently he bears partial responsibility for their actions.

he cannot admit his mistake because this would mean admitting he has lied about arming the rebels.

so he blames the ukrainian air for the problem.

but nearly everyone else sees his lie for what it is and also sees he bears some of the burden of responsibility. he has put powerful weapons and/or "military advisors" into the hands of reckless fools. they shot down an airliner. he is partly responsible.

if he was an innocent, he would acknowledge the problem and demand action against those responsible, whoever they might be.


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Re: Guess
By: faul
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Sat, 19 Jul 14 10:25 PM
Msg. 15944 of 54959

What exactly are you guys charging Putin with........?

That he ordered the plane be shot down?That his forces
ordered the plane be shot down?That the Rebels ordered
the plane be shot down?That he supplied the weapon that
shot the plane down?

What have you found him guilty of?


I brought up the US case as precedent,as common law works.
It seems a sorry & $213,000 per passenger without admitting
legal responsibility has been set........unless you believe that
common law doesn't apply to Russia?


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