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15845 Re: germany expels us spy
   in my view, the us should be targeting folks in high risk, weak law, i...
Cactus Flower   ALEA   10 Jul 2014
8:15 PM
15844 Re: germany expels us spy - us nonchalance
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Cactus Flower   ALEA   10 Jul 2014
7:42 PM

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Re: germany expels us spy

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA
Thu, 10 Jul 14 7:26 PM
Msg. 15843 of 54959
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No. My own country is equally bad.

But spying on allies, especially when they are discussing their response to your surveillance, isn't the smartest move.

The US is surveilling everyone, everywhere using the world wide network. When it starts considering the costs of doing so, maybe the conversation will be more constructive. Meanwhile, everyone, everywhere is deciding to avoid US network equipment, is deciding to reroute their networks so information doesn't touch the US, is building their infrastructure around national servers etc.

So the sum total of taking advantage of a security vulnerability in a beneficial common network framework is loss of trust in the US and commercial harm. I reckon I'm the supporter of US interests in this conversation. Whereas the folks who justify untrustworthy behaviours are self-harmers. They won't admit the issues they cause their country.