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hi tkc,

i think that with the us constitution, if you create a static target, incumbent interests will get around the protections and will infiltrate the structure of government.

the stability of constitutional architecture that the founders craved has emerged as a vulnerability. money has tested it. money won.

this has led to a crisis of trust. people wonder if their current and future interests are represented. or if incumbents always put a slope on the field of play.

to use the language of security: if it isn't popular will, where's the root of trust in the us constitution?

is it the words and principles enumerated in the document? no. these are the fixed target for incumbent interests.

is it the supreme court? no. while their interpretations grant some flexibility, they are not responsible for the politics. the supreme court was even unable to resolve the issues of slavery long after they were dealt with elsewhere.

is it the president and congress? no. these are partisans whose policies are subject to incumbent influence.


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Re: Oligarchy/Politics
By: tkc
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Thu, 24 Apr 14 4:49 AM
Msg. 15416 of 54959

As a teenager, in my 3rd year of Hi-Y "running" N.Y.S. government, I was Chairman of the bills commitee. I had serious power. No bill could be passed to a floor vote w/o my blessing. We "whipped" votes we wanted to pass. If votes weren't there, we withheld passing opposition's bills out of commitee until they agreed to pass ours on the floor. When they agreed we put our bill on the floor first, if they passed only then would I allow their bills to pass commitee. That was simple politics w/o the influence of lobyists' money funded by corporations, party or oligarchs. Today money has way too munch influence. Today, buy the state lagislators and jerymander districts to assure re-election to state and federal legislatures. Once in control make it as difficult as possible for opposition voters to vote. Sadly, U.S. democracy has been sold. For Legistators, choosing to "Do the right thing" is secondary to voting their moneys'interest. But you all knew that. Position or principle?


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