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Re: Pushing Toward The Final War ...... 

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I start with King David 1st through to William 3rd...

Scotland has been under the heal of England for
near on 1000 years....when you occupy & conquer
weak countries their bloodlines are erased from
history.....After 500 years there's not much
Scottish left........

"William was grandson of David I of Scotland. He also inherited the title of Earl of Northumbria in 1152 from his father, Henry of Scotland. However he had to give up this title to King Henry II of England in 1157. This caused trouble after William became king, since he spent a lot of effort trying to regain Northumbria.
William was a key player in the Revolt of 1173–1174 against Henry II. In 1174, at the Battle of Alnwick, during a raid in support of the revolt, William recklessly charged the English troops himself, shouting, "Now we shall see which of us are good knights!" He was unhorsed and captured by Henry's troops led by Ranulf de Glanvill and taken in chains to Newcastle, then Northampton, and then transferred to Falaise in Normandy. Henry then sent an army to Scotland and occupied it. As ransom and to regain his kingdom, William had to acknowledge Henry as his feudal superior and agree to pay for the cost of the English army's occupation of Scotland by taxing the Scots."


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Re: Pushing Toward The Final War ......
By: Cactus Flower
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Sun, 30 Mar 14 6:02 PM
Msg. 15371 of 54959

not sure where you get your thousand years.

james vi was a scottish king who was accepted as the monarch of england and wales by right of succession at the beginning of the seventeenth century. and then we had the acts of union a hundred years later. the scottish parliament approved their own act of union without duress.

that's where we all joined up. there's no english yoke although clearly the history of english-scottish relations wasn't always peaceful when scotland and england were independent. i daresay the scots will resent their southern sassenach neighbour regardless of whether we are married or divorced.

the desire to secede is by no means an obvious majority view. but if it achieves a majority, good luck to scotland forging its own pathway forwards. i hope whatever it chooses works out.


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