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Good Afternoon Zimbler!

Hard to figure out what the article says is not happening.

The rise of sea levels is a fact. It isn't something that will be determined by one disgruntled scientist measuring water levels.

Defining science by what you know as opposed to defining it by what others know is called stupidity.

The politics of global warming is well known. Politics won't make a difference either way unless man's activities that influence it are moderated.

Warm water takes up more volume. A greater volume of water raises the sea levels. Global warming is a fact. It is not a convenient fiction concocted with a political agenda that might differ from your own.

As an expanding percentage of the human population lives in coastal areas the issue is not one of a lie being told. It is one about how science can be used to seek a solution.

The greenhouse effect is fairly well understood.
The effect can only be studied by observation and computer modeling.

I am not too impressed with a college professor criticizing computer modeling. Computer modeling is a late 20th Century adaptation to the scientific method.

Denying that human activity has effected the climate on the planet is Luddite denial of reality.

That which is inconvenient to you or distasteful to you or uncomfortable to your politics is a personal matter. It is not science.


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Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
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Tue, 18 Feb 14 12:20 AM
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Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

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One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".

When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as
an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria.

(Entire article is at the link. Zim.)


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