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By: oldCADuser in FFFT | Recommend this post (5)
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I think you will find that the Social Security Administration is required by federal law to invest any annual SURPLUS into the so-called 'trust fund', which consist of Treasury Notes. As of the end of 2011, the Social Security 'trust fund' contained $2.7 trillion and was drawing 4.4% annual interest. This amount is expected to cover all projected benefit obligations thru 2033, at which point it actually would have to start paying out current benefits from current tax receipts. Until then there will be a surplus in the 'trust fund'. In other words, for at least the next 20 years, there is no way in hell that you could describe Social Security as a 'Ponzi' scheme.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_Trust_Fund




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Re: Dems Target Private Retirement Accounts
By: Zimbler0
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Thu, 07 Nov 13 10:06 PM
Msg. 57514 of 65535

Which might explain why I don't like insurance companies.

But, as usual, you go off on a tangent. Ignoring
the main point.

But, OK, I believe Insurance companies are required
to maintain assets (with value) so that they can
make the required and expected payouts.

http://www.naic.org/capital_markets_archive/110819.htm

Ponzi schemes do not maintain sufficient assets
to make the money to pay back the investors.

What assets does S.S. actually have? Treasury Notes?
issued by an entity which chronically (for decades)
overspends its income.

And then, with 'quantitative easing' treasury notes
yields are so low . . . that S.S. 'assets' are actually
losing value. (Inflation.) While cost of living
raises and new retirees payouts increase what S.S. must pay out.

It ought to frighten most sane people.
(Although, with all your IRA and 401K money you
probably do not need S.S. . . . so maybe you should
just tell the government to keep your money and maybe
that'll help keep S.S. solvent a little longer.)

Zim.


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