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Re: Dems Target Private Retirement Accounts

By: Zimbler0 in FFFT | Recommend this post (0)
Thu, 07 Nov 13 1:31 AM | 51 view(s)
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OCU> As for your comment about how the Social Security 'trustfund' has been invested, can you image what it would be like today if Dubya had managed to get his way and had privatized Social Security back when he took office.



I believe I've said this before.
The current version of Social Security is a Ponzi
scheme ran by the government.

Your wife did not 'earn' anything vis-à-vis social
security. The government stole her money and now they
are giving her some of somebody elses money in the
name of a 'retirement benefit'. (That is how Ponzi
schemes work.)

We also have Social Security 'disability' and S.S.
'survivor benefits' . . . they might be necessary
but 'they' are stealing the money that is supposed
to be for folks S.S. retirements . . . NOT a good
thing for long term S.S. survivability.

As for Dubya's 'IRA for everybody scam' . . . That is
just as bad as the current S.S. Ponzi scheme - from
the opposite direction. The folks who need S.S. the
most are the ones least able to invest their moneys.
Instead of one massive Ponzi scheme like we got now,
we'd have thousands of little ones.

For my money, the best solution would be to :

1.) Scale back S.S. No more 'disability', no more
. . . 'survivors benefits'. S.S. should be retirement,
. . . nothing more.

2.) Social Security should then morph into the worlds
largest stock and bond mutual fund. Investing as a
blind index fund in the stocks and bonds of America's
larger and most profitable companies.

3.) Those already retired get fixed annuity
retirement checks. Young folks get shares in the S.S.
Mutual fund. Shares, which, when they retire,they can
sell, as needed, to provide for their retirement needs.
Those in between get a combination of a fixed annuity,
plus shares.

4.) Folks own the shares they have in the S.S. mutual
fund. It is a mandatory investment fund but they
do own their shares, and they can bequeath their
shares to their heirs when they die.

5.) Folks caught trying to 'insider trade' on what
S.S. is going to buy go to jail and get stripped of
all their assets - said assets go into the S.S. mutual
fund and 'redistributed' to all the share holders.

6.) Any politician who even thinks of tapping S.S.
for any reason goes to jail, loses all government
retirement thingies, and is subject to public
humiliation.

It will also be necessary for the federal government
to start running a surplus, so that it can buy back
the government paper which, laughingly, is supposed
to be a 'surplus' of assets for S.S. This so S.S.
can properly invest the money.

I could go on . . . .

Zim.




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Re: Dems Target Private Retirement Accounts
By: oldCADuser in FFFT
Wed, 06 Nov 13 10:35 AM 		Msg. 57448 of 65535

Now you're posting FIVE YEAR OLD CARP!!!!!!

And for the record, my wife, who's a bit older than I am, has been collecting HER OWN Social Security for nearly 5 years now. After all, she worked her whole life, until about 6 years ago, and so she's earned every dime that she's now getting each month.

As for your comment about how the Social Security 'trustfund' has been invested, can you image what it would be like today if Dubya had managed to get his way and had privatized Social Security back when he took office. People would not only have loast THEIR own savings when the financial meltdown occured but Social Security would have taken it in the ear as well, but not before the banksters had taken their percentage off the top. Yea, that would have really helped America, NOT!!!!!

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