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Re: President Barack Obama said Monday he would put plans for airstrikes against Syria on hold if Bashar Assad's regime were to turn over control of its chemical weapons.

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Ok, tkc. Here we part ways.

The thing that makes a Syrian strike worth doing is if it does something worthwhile for Syria.

This isn't about the US. Syria isn't an adjunct to the US' image of itself.

Far as I can tell, there is no value to a missile strike against Syria that helps with the Syrian crisis. Indeed, it will be seen by locals as yet another assertion of US power in a region which is clearly sick of it - witness Egypt.

But the US can win by seeming to be judicious. By seeming to care about human life. By seeming less than eager to use force.

A military strike does nothing except impress those people who define US strength as a military thing. And who don't notice that the expression of US power has actually decayed US influence for the last decade and more.

The US will gain enormously from adopting the accidental Kerry/Russian approach. Remove the chemical weapons. Then figure the proper legal action when the time comes. That is strength and leadership. Lobbing bombs from the Mediterranean while avoiding any risk to a ground force - that's not leadership. It sure isn't bravery. It's the worst sort of politics designed to save face because O made the mistake of drawing a pointless line.

It was his own mistake. He needs to swallow it. Putin has offered him a pathway.


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Re: President Barack Obama said Monday he would put plans for airstrikes against Syria on hold if Bashar Assad's regime were to turn over control of its chemical weapons.
By: tkc
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Tue, 10 Sep 13 7:14 PM
Msg. 14670 of 54959

Hi CF. Normally I'd agree that "i see submission to congress as a useful precedent in a country that is inclined to resort to the use of military solutions where other ones are better." But not w/ this Congress. There's still time to gather more international support for punitive action against Assad or for a compromise solution such as the transfer of the WMD. I'd much prefer most any option over a US only strike. What I don't want is OB (and the US by extension) to be perceived as weak by "backing down" after the "red line" was crossed. Absent other options and a Congressional No vote, then I hope he delivers a focused meaningful strike.

I agree that "finding ways to restrain us presidents is surely a useful thing as the position seems to bring out a need to dominate that isn't especially helpful." BO has smart people working for him and I'm hopeful they'll find a way to send Assad the message and save BO's face. Right now he looks weak and ineffective - speaking loudly but with no stick. All the GOP led House cares about is making BO look bad so their vote doesn't matter to me. If the Senate were to vote no that would change my position.


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